RE: Murder By The Book - Day 5: The Rings of Satire
05-02-2014, 03:05 PM
I'd like to point out that Coldblooded's argument regarding "green not wanting to lynch lurkers = lurkers is scum = Agen is scum" is flawed;
First of all since I'm not scum there isn't a statistical probability that everyone lurking is scum - meaning someone in that green list you so blithely dismiss as 'not worth investigating' more than likely is,
[1.5 - We started with 21. 14 are now alive. Of the 7 dead, 2 were scum, 2 were third parties, and 3 were town. You propose that over half of the 5 suspects on your list, myself included, have decided to play dead. I'm pretty sure there are easier ways to win. I wouldn't know.]
Secondly my lurking was based off a completely different motivation (saw smackdown for roleplaying, didn't feel like writing long boring posts like this one + lame-ass role), and
Thirdly, #728, a more recent post than the #335 you cite wherein green lashes out at lurkers.
Not to mention that you're parlaying your defence of green into proof of your innocence, whereas apparently my defence of him proves my guilt.
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So now if I keep talking/try to defend myself I'm obviously the new green, right? Or if I'm silent I'm obviously the new green, right? Nice Morton's fork you've got there.
- NOW BACK TO WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING INSTEAD OF SCREAMING OMGUS -
Donutlist:
Donut - Still feel like circumstances exist wherein you aren't a towncop, but so far I'll leave you be with a tentative Town read oh noes I'm obviously...typing this after the section below so I've mostly worked through all that sarcasm. Plus I approve of your voting choices.
Nova - Still kind of all over the place, but I can follow your reasoning including up to the fact that donut isn't dead.
too tired just typing words now
Kumu - This is the interesting part. Since Akumu has been gunning for eb, based on some pretty good reasoning (which I was actually going to support D4 but then got hit in the face with a university), I was ready to see eb as an Undercover role. But as Coldblooded says, eb's not likely to be Undercover since green flipped scum, so now it's time to find out whether Solly's playing us. Kumu, what do you think of eb given green's flip?
eberron - I'm feeling a little better about eb after reading back and getting more information. I'd like to hear what Akumu thinks about these new circumstances. Hopefully town
Sotek - I'm rehashing old ground here, but I feel like Sotek's serenity pie townread comes from only one source, and that's eberron. On the other hand, eb also had the divinity pie power, which led to the acceptance of that read. If eb is scum, then Sotek is too. Coalignment with eb.
Pala - I'm not sure. Got onto the eberron train D4 and defended green. Not that that means anything according to Coldblooded. Okay maybe I haven't worked through all the sarcasm yet. Nulltell so far. Guess that means I'm the new green or just a stupid bitch who can't see what's in front of her.
Garu - Do we have any evidence Garu is town, other than having an extremely town-helpful oneshot? I DON"T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING ANYMORE
Whim - Could use a prodvote. I can't remember when she was last active but we haven't had that argument on lurkers in some time. Thankfully, our dear friend Coldblooded has raised it for us. Dare we say a Whim is a scum? She was cagey before disappearing off the face of the earth.
Agen - I is offended! Though not particularly surprised; I'd have voted me based on lurking time - but not on the again fallacious reasoning that lurkers are automatically scum, just the 'lurkers make game not fun'. I agree! Which is why I tried to stop lurking! But no! (see fork, Morton's above) I bet if I had to make a read on myself I'd be noncommittal, right?!
No seriously I'm a respected author of biographies
Dalm - Same for whim. I'm going to have to read back to find her posts and then work on an opinion later, I need to sleep. Guess my noncommittal stance on lurkers makes me the new green. [see (see fork, Morton's above) above]
Schaz - Interesting point. I wasn't unconvinced that Schaz and Slor weren't co-aligned, but skimming back later on I can see that Slor stopped being pally with Schaz and started campaigning against her (See #483). Since Slor flipped town, I would have placed Schaz as Undercov-
BUT WAIT
green said the same thing! Does that make me the new green? Or was green simply throwing someone under the bus? A Janitor, even a partial one, would have been a lot more useful to Undercover than a mook. Yet considering that Schaz voted green at the beginning of the day, and followed it up, I'd be hard-pressed to continue thinking that way. It's pretty far to go if you were trying to look innocent. On this evidence I'd give Schaz a Town read oh no i used the color green this obviously means i'm the new green
bigro - How does this slot work again? You can't lurk when there isn't anyone there. Isn't Seedy here? When did she get here?! Is she going to say anything, or should we just kill her? Guess we should give her a chance, but I'm going to treat her like any other lurker until she talks, which I'm hoping will be soon given her reasonable activity as Seedy 1.
Coldblooded - I'm still flipping back and forth between 'misguided town' and 'clever bastard'. Some things are...plausible.
#757: eberron scum, green town, schaz scum. Later on in #876 he backpedals once green flips, and claims that since green was scum, eberron town and schaz town. All very well and good; I'd have done the same, and I agree with the analysis. Yet let's not ignore the burning down of the 'green defense' brigade; that in itself stinks of entrapment. Plus, if you can hide under the excuse of reading back, so can I (also because it's true). This amount of aggression just doesn't make sense.
I'm going to side with donut and scum oops i went and omgus'd I'll look at it again when i'm more awake
Unvote: eberron
Vote: Coldblooded
I AM EATING MONEY
At this point I'm starting to find my words making less and less sense. Fuck you, mafia.
gnauga - literally too tired cover this later. not fully convinced of not-scumminess.
I'VE BEEN TYPING FORTWO THREE FOUR FIVE SIX HOURS WHY AM I INVESTING MY TIME HERE IT'S ONE IN THE MORNING
oh my god we've gone two pages in a day and some people haven't posted/devoted their souls can we start screaming at them about how they're totally scum now too
I'M NEVER WRITING THIS LONG A POST EVER AGAIN
First of all since I'm not scum there isn't a statistical probability that everyone lurking is scum - meaning someone in that green list you so blithely dismiss as 'not worth investigating' more than likely is,
[1.5 - We started with 21. 14 are now alive. Of the 7 dead, 2 were scum, 2 were third parties, and 3 were town. You propose that over half of the 5 suspects on your list, myself included, have decided to play dead. I'm pretty sure there are easier ways to win. I wouldn't know.]
Secondly my lurking was based off a completely different motivation (saw smackdown for roleplaying, didn't feel like writing long boring posts like this one + lame-ass role), and
Thirdly, #728, a more recent post than the #335 you cite wherein green lashes out at lurkers.
Not to mention that you're parlaying your defence of green into proof of your innocence, whereas apparently my defence of him proves my guilt.
ô_ò
(05-02-2014, 05:02 AM)Coldblooded Wrote: »And then they come in early today and start posting up a relative storm immediately after an incredibly talkative scum agent kicks the bucket. That's uh... kind of a textbook scumtell?
So now if I keep talking/try to defend myself I'm obviously the new green, right? Or if I'm silent I'm obviously the new green, right? Nice Morton's fork you've got there.
- NOW BACK TO WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING INSTEAD OF SCREAMING OMGUS -
Donutlist:
Donut - Still feel like circumstances exist wherein you aren't a towncop, but so far I'll leave you be with a tentative Town read oh noes I'm obviously...typing this after the section below so I've mostly worked through all that sarcasm. Plus I approve of your voting choices.
Nova - Still kind of all over the place, but I can follow your reasoning including up to the fact that donut isn't dead.
too tired just typing words now
Kumu - This is the interesting part. Since Akumu has been gunning for eb, based on some pretty good reasoning (which I was actually going to support D4 but then got hit in the face with a university), I was ready to see eb as an Undercover role. But as Coldblooded says, eb's not likely to be Undercover since green flipped scum, so now it's time to find out whether Solly's playing us. Kumu, what do you think of eb given green's flip?
eberron - I'm feeling a little better about eb after reading back and getting more information. I'd like to hear what Akumu thinks about these new circumstances. Hopefully town
Sotek - I'm rehashing old ground here, but I feel like Sotek's serenity pie townread comes from only one source, and that's eberron. On the other hand, eb also had the divinity pie power, which led to the acceptance of that read. If eb is scum, then Sotek is too. Coalignment with eb.
Pala - I'm not sure. Got onto the eberron train D4 and defended green. Not that that means anything according to Coldblooded. Okay maybe I haven't worked through all the sarcasm yet. Nulltell so far. Guess that means I'm the new green or just a stupid bitch who can't see what's in front of her.
Garu - Do we have any evidence Garu is town, other than having an extremely town-helpful oneshot? I DON"T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING ANYMORE
Whim - Could use a prodvote. I can't remember when she was last active but we haven't had that argument on lurkers in some time. Thankfully, our dear friend Coldblooded has raised it for us. Dare we say a Whim is a scum? She was cagey before disappearing off the face of the earth.
Agen - I is offended! Though not particularly surprised; I'd have voted me based on lurking time - but not on the again fallacious reasoning that lurkers are automatically scum, just the 'lurkers make game not fun'. I agree! Which is why I tried to stop lurking! But no! (see fork, Morton's above) I bet if I had to make a read on myself I'd be noncommittal, right?!
No seriously I'm a respected author of biographies
Dalm - Same for whim. I'm going to have to read back to find her posts and then work on an opinion later, I need to sleep. Guess my noncommittal stance on lurkers makes me the new green. [see (see fork, Morton's above) above]
Schaz - Interesting point. I wasn't unconvinced that Schaz and Slor weren't co-aligned, but skimming back later on I can see that Slor stopped being pally with Schaz and started campaigning against her (See #483). Since Slor flipped town, I would have placed Schaz as Undercov-
BUT WAIT
green said the same thing! Does that make me the new green? Or was green simply throwing someone under the bus? A Janitor, even a partial one, would have been a lot more useful to Undercover than a mook. Yet considering that Schaz voted green at the beginning of the day, and followed it up, I'd be hard-pressed to continue thinking that way. It's pretty far to go if you were trying to look innocent. On this evidence I'd give Schaz a Town read oh no i used the color green this obviously means i'm the new green
bigro - How does this slot work again? You can't lurk when there isn't anyone there. Isn't Seedy here? When did she get here?! Is she going to say anything, or should we just kill her? Guess we should give her a chance, but I'm going to treat her like any other lurker until she talks, which I'm hoping will be soon given her reasonable activity as Seedy 1.
Coldblooded - I'm still flipping back and forth between 'misguided town' and 'clever bastard'. Some things are...plausible.
#757: eberron scum, green town, schaz scum. Later on in #876 he backpedals once green flips, and claims that since green was scum, eberron town and schaz town. All very well and good; I'd have done the same, and I agree with the analysis. Yet let's not ignore the burning down of the 'green defense' brigade; that in itself stinks of entrapment. Plus, if you can hide under the excuse of reading back, so can I (also because it's true). This amount of aggression just doesn't make sense.
I'm going to side with donut and scum oops i went and omgus'd I'll look at it again when i'm more awake
Unvote: eberron
Vote: Coldblooded
I AM EATING MONEY
At this point I'm starting to find my words making less and less sense. Fuck you, mafia.
gnauga - literally too tired cover this later. not fully convinced of not-scumminess.
I'VE BEEN TYPING FOR
oh my god we've gone two pages in a day and some people haven't posted/devoted their souls can we start screaming at them about how they're totally scum now too
I'M NEVER WRITING THIS LONG A POST EVER AGAIN
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