Tragedy Looper - GAME 2 LOOP 1 DAY 3 - Thwart the Mastermind

I play on the boy student.

Day 4 - No Incident is scheduled.

DAY: 4/4
LOOP: 3/3

Schazer played Move Vertical on Boy Student.
A test looms. Maybe... maybe he should wish for some luck.
Boy Student has moved to the Shrine.

a52 has played Move Vertical on Girl Student.
The Mastermind has played Move Horizontal on Girl Student.
She's not feeling great. Maybe she should get this feeling checked out.
Girl student has moved to the Hospital.

The Mastermind has played Paranoia -1 on Shrine Maiden.
Something about this place helps her stay calm.
Shrine Maiden has 0 Paranoia.

The Mastermind has played Intrigue +1 on the School.
wiltingMyosotis has played Forbid Intrigue on the School.
There's a menacing feeling amongst the school, but, like, exams are coming up. This is normal.
The School has 0 Intrigue












Boy Student: 2 Goodwill
Girl Student: 2 Intrigue, 2 Paranoia
Police Officer: 2 Goodwill

Out of play cards: Goodwill +2, Forbid Movement, Forbid Movement, Goodwill +2, Forbid Movement, Goodwill +2, Move Diagonal

Hey, I think y'all know what's up with this specific scenario.

I'm not using any abilities.

You have no goodwill abilities.

And of course.

Girl Student is dead.

YOU HAVE LOST. TIME SPIRAL UNSTABLE.

But you still have one chance.

Boy Student:
Girl Student:
Shrine Maiden:
Doctor:
Office Worker:
Police Officer:

You have one chance to name the role of every character, with Person as the identity of anybody without a plot role. If your agreed upon submitted list is perfect, you still claim victory over me.

Feel free to openly discuss this.

!!!! Oh jeez i shouldn't have forgotten about the hospital i'm sorry;;;

Uhm...

I know you already said this but discussion is OK now, right?

yes

Lmao so here's what we do know

Boy Student:
Girl Student: Key Person
Shrine Maiden: Serial Killer
Doctor:
Office Worker:
Police Officer: Conspiracy Theorist

Unknown: Which main plot we're working with. It's either Murder Plan (with unidentified Killer and Brain) or A Place To Protect (with unidentified Cultist).
The Office Worker had Goodwill Refusal. This means:

If we're lucky we're working with A Place To Protect (supported by Laser trying to place Intrigue on the school) and the Office Worker is the Cultist. All roles are id'd and we've won.

If we're unlucky, Laser played Intrigue on the School to make us believe it's the Place To Protect Plot; the Office Worker is one off the Killer or Brain, and either the Doctor or Boy Student is the other missing role.

Well... I'd say guessing it's A Place To Protect may be our best bet. If it's not, then we'd still be wrong, but either way we're running the same 1/5 chance either way.

It's.. really up to you both, though! I'm not exactly sure which to pick.

Ah fuck, my guess did not pay off.

My vote is that we go for Place to Protect; there's no real way of knowing which it is, and at least with that Plot we have a better chance of getting everything right.

Final Guess:

Going with A Place to Protect, since it doesn't look like intrigue was ever placed on anyone besides the Girl Student.

Boy Student: Person
Girl Student: Key Person
Shrine Maiden: Serial Killer
Doctor: Person
Office Worker: Cultist
Police Officer: Conspiracy Theorist

The Final Guess has been made.

Girl Student

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....is a Key Person

Shrine Maiden

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....is a Serial Killer

Boy Student

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....is a Person

Police Officer

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....is a Conspiracy Theorist

Doctor

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....is a Brain.

And, well, that must mean

Office Worker

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....is a Killer

The plots were:
Main Plot: Murder Plan
Subplot: Shadow of the Ripper

The Incident culprits were

Day 2 Murder: Office Worker.
Day 3 Suicide: Girl Student

Unfortunately for all of you, The Mastermind got away with his evil scheme.


BUT DANG I WAS REALLY GLAD THAT YOU DIDN'T NOTICE
A) I kept trying to move Girl Student into the City for some reason
and B) 1 Intrigue wasn't going to be enough to trigger the failure condition on the School, unless there was a Brain, which would be impossible under A Place To Protect.

Here's my quicktopic of worrying about everything.

i want to hear people's thoughts on things but also there will be another round. Priority goes to new Protagonists.
(feel free to claim if you'd like to specifically have the app, the diary, or the pocketwatch as your time travel device. It doesn't mean anything but like, color coding, really. And turn order, I suppose. I'll keep the order in what the icons are in the first post)

sdfghjkl... i feel like a fool. Well played though, Laser!
I'll take a backseat for this round so other people may join. >:3

I need to actually read the rules to this game but it was fun enough reading along the first game that I'll sign up for round 2.

Slight preference to pocketwatch but I'm happy with any icon.

Okay that's one of three, and at this point I'll be letting round 1 protagonists come back unless I suddenly do get two more new players. And hey, let's see what y'all will be dealing with.

SCRIPT #2
Tragedy Set: First Steps (click for the player guide, which is very important)
Number of Loops: 4
Days per Loop: 5

Incident List
Day 1 - Increasing Unease
Day 2 - Nothing
Day 3 - Hospital Incident
Day 4 - Nothing
Day 5 - Faraway Murder

DAY: 0/5
LOOP: 1/4









No cops this time!

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SpoilerPlayer guide in image format again.

The number of loops available actually said "3 or 4" and most of the scripts except like, two have an option like this. I'm thinking if I win a script, for the next one I'll give the more generous option, but if you win, the next one will be the harder option.

(I'd love to take the phone, but I'm also like "aw fuck turn order")

i got an itch

an itch for evil

Need somebody to take the magic journal, the magic stopwatch, and the magic app to fight me. Scenario is still as depicted above. Signups list is cleared because it's been over a year so... feel free to claim whichever. App user starts as leader but it'll pass around a lot so don't be too worried about that

If you want an idea how it works beyond the rules in the first page, hey, there's like five whole pages of a game of this to view!

Still need to read the rules.

Still want the pocket watch.

Let's loop this tragedy, Hacking to the Gate!

I'm sort of a journal guy, so I'll pick that up. Looking forward to tragically failing in stopping you, mastermind.

hmm, no one else has signed up in three days...

well, i just read through this all and am very intrigued so i'd be fine with owning a phone!

Excellent! I'll update the thread title and op when I get home but the starting setup is visible a few posts up-- Doctor and Patient in the Hospital, Shrine Maiden at the Shrine, Office Worker in the City, and Boy Student and Girl Student at the School. Three incidents, five days, three loops.
Obviously loop 1 plans are going on close to zero information but feel free to talk plans here before you dive out of the Time Spiral. Reecer will be the starting Leader.

oh boy i've thrusted you two immediately into this, hope that's fine!

immediately suspicious about the patient and their lack of ability to move. my bet is they're either a key person (so their lack of movement means they can be easily killed) or a brain (so they'll just increase intrigue in the hospital every turn and then we die). freeing that baby seems like a vital move.

That Hospital Incident looks like a real doozy, and my reflex is to try and block any intrigue heading that way. But that's obviously what the mastermind wants us to do. The only thing more dastardly than intrigue-triggering one location is intrigue-triggering two locations! Given the mastermind's natural tendencies towards diabolical impossible choices, (and also the other team playing through the non-location based plot coupled with a low chance of repeats) I suspect we're in either Light of the Avenger or A Place to Protect. If the Mastermind were especially tricky, the Brain in LotA would be in the school to prevent us from determining which plot we're running.

Known Loss triggers:
--Hospital reaches 2 Intrigue by D3 while the second culprit is paranoid
Potential Loss triggers:
--Brain's location reaches 2 Intrigue
--Key Person dies
--School reaches 2 Intrigue
--Friend dies

Confusion Points:
--If both Friend and Key Person die in the hospital we'll confirm the subplot but not the main plot
--RL gets one free Intrigue every loop without us being able to discern between LotA or An Unsettling Script
--If the Brain is Boy Student or Girl Student, School is priority zone, but plot is still unknown.

Important Notes:
--If we're doing LotA, the Brain most likely does not start in the Hospital as it'd be too easy for us to defend and the only other thing we'd need to do is stop the Friend from dying D5.
--Girl Student cannot be the culprit for Increasing Unease as her Paranoia Limit is impossible to reach in Day 1.
--Even though the Hospital Incident failstate is known, we should still consider provoking it so we can figure out who its culprit is. Keeping paranoia off of them frees up our intrigue blocking for the main plot.

This isn't a comprehensive summary of all my brainstorming but I feel it's enough to get the discussion rolling. Also if we wind up with another Killer or Serial Killer a lot of this needs reworking. We should probably come up with a system like the last group did for rotating Forbid Intrigue duty since if we ever overlap we fuck up.

I'm hoping to give this a proper look tomorrow but I feel like I can pretty much agree with Granola's logic. I think our first move is to more or less use what we know are potential issues to narrow down the scenario so I actually think we should dedicate at least a little bit of time to preventing issues in the hospital and force our enemy to reveal more of their hand.

Other quick potential idea, if Granola is right it might not be a terrible idea to put one of our early loops into forcing a distinction between the two.

Wednesday, 10 PM PST is when the Time Spiral will collapse and Day 1 will begin, ending discussion.

Quick questions:
How many "Intrigue +1" cards can the Mastermind play each day?
If a culprit is at their paranoia limit, is Incident activation mandatory?