Oh Nomic, Not Againmic

tl;dr, blame Chwoka. Boy howdy am I looking forward to another generation of ruined internet friendships thanks to this awful, awful, game. The awful, awful, game is called Nomic. Nomic is a game where making the rules is the game. It's as bad as it sounds.

How to win (other than by not playing this awful, awful game):

• Get the most points????
  
• Be the last skeleton in the cabinet.

RULES
IMMUTABLE RULES:

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Spoiler101. All players must always abide by all the rules then in effect, in the form in which they are then in effect. The rules in the Initial Set are in effect whenever a game begins. The Initial Set consists of Rules 101-116 (immutable) and 201-213 (mutable).

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102. Initially rules in the 100's are immutable and rules in the 200's are mutable. Rules subsequently enacted or transmuted (that is, changed from immutable to mutable or vice versa) may be immutable or mutable regardless of their numbers, and rules in the Initial Set may be transmuted regardless of their numbers.

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103. A rule-change is any of the following: (1) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of a mutable rule; (2) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of an amendment of a mutable rule; or (3) the transmutation of an immutable rule into a mutable rule or vice versa.

(Note: This definition implies that, at least initially, all new rules are mutable; immutable rules, as long as they are immutable, may not be amended or repealed; mutable rules, as long as they are mutable, may be amended or repealed; any rule of any status may be transmuted; no rule is absolutely immune to change.)

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104. All rule-changes proposed in the proper way shall be voted on. They will be adopted if and only if they receive the required number of votes.

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105. Every player is an eligible voter. Every eligible voter must participate in every vote on rule-changes.

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106. All proposed rule-changes shall be written down before they are voted on. If they are adopted, they shall guide play in the form in which they were voted on.

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107. No rule-change may take effect earlier than the moment of the completion of the vote that adopted it, even if its wording explicitly states otherwise. No rule-change may have retroactive application.

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108. Each proposed rule-change shall be given a number for reference. The numbers shall begin with 301, and each rule-change proposed in the proper way shall receive the next successive integer, whether or not the proposal is adopted.

If a rule is repealed and reenacted, it receives the number of the proposal to reenact it. If a rule is amended or transmuted, it receives the number of the proposal to amend or transmute it. If an amendment is amended or repealed, the entire rule of which it is a part receives the number of the proposal to amend or repeal the amendment.

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109. Rule-changes that transmute immutable rules into mutable rules may be adopted if and only if the vote is unanimous among the eligible voters. Transmutation shall not be implied, but must be stated explicitly in a proposal to take effect.

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110. In a conflict between a mutable and an immutable rule, the immutable rule takes precedence and the mutable rule shall be entirely void. For the purposes of this rule a proposal to transmute an immutable rule does not "conflict" with that immutable rule.

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111. If a rule-change as proposed is unclear, ambiguous, paradoxical, or destructive of play, or if it arguably consists of two or more rule-changes compounded or is an amendment that makes no difference, or if it is otherwise of questionable value, then the other players may suggest amendments or argue against the proposal before the vote. A reasonable time must be allowed for this debate. The proponent decides the final form in which the proposal is to be voted on and, unless the Judge has been asked to do so, also decides the time to end debate and vote.

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112. The state of affairs that constitutes winning may not be altered from achieving n points to any other state of affairs. The magnitude of n and the means of earning points may be changed, and rules that establish a winner when play cannot continue may be enacted and (while they are mutable) be amended or repealed.

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113. A player always has the option to forfeit the game rather than continue to play or incur a game penalty. No penalty worse than losing, in the judgment of the player to incur it, may be imposed.

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114. There must always be at least one mutable rule. The adoption of rule-changes must never become completely impermissible.

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115. Rule-changes that affect rules needed to allow or apply rule-changes are as permissible as other rule-changes. Even rule-changes that amend or repeal their own authority are permissible. No rule-change or type of move is impermissible solely on account of the self-reference or self-application of a rule.

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116. Whatever is not prohibited or regulated by a rule is permitted and unregulated, with the sole exception of changing the rules, which is permitted only when a rule or set of rules explicitly or implicitly permits it.

117. Play must continue on a daily basis. If no action which continues play has been taken in 24 hours, then the last player required to take an action will be considered an inactive player. If multiple players were required to take action at the same time, the player next in the turn order will be considered an inactive player.

Inactive players are not considered "players" or "active players". Rules which require player actions (i.e. rule 105) do not apply to inactive players. Inactive players are not considered in the turn order and for all practical purposes are not participants in the game; however, their position in the turn order, their points, and anything else they may have accrued at the start of their inactivity (unless specifically stated otherwise) remains recorded and will be reinstated should that player become active again.

(NOTE: Actions which continue play include but are not limited to: proposing a rule-change, voting on a rule-change, calling for judgement, amending or proposing official amendments for a rule-change, joining the game, and designating a player as inactive.)

118. Inactive players may be reinstated as an active player at any time by preforming an action which continues play.

MUTABLE RULES:

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SpoilerMutable Rules
201. Players shall alternate in clockwise order, taking one whole turn apiece. Turns may not be skipped or passed, and parts of turns may not be omitted. All players begin with zero points.

In mail and computer games, players shall alternate according to the order they joined the game.

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202. One turn consists of two parts in this order: (1) proposing one rule-change and having it voted on, and (2) subtracting 291 from the ordinal number of their proposal, multiplying the result by the fraction of favorable votes it received, rounded to the nearest integer. (This yields a number between 0 and 10 for the first player, with the upper limit increasing by one each turn; more points are awarded for more popular proposals.)

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203. A rule-change is adopted if and only if the vote is a simple majority.

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204. If and when rule-changes can be adopted without unanimity, the players who vote against winning proposals shall receive 10 points each.

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205. An adopted rule-change takes full effect at the moment of the completion of the vote that adopted it.

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206. When a proposed rule-change is defeated, the player who proposed it loses 10 points.

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207. Each player always has exactly one vote.

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208. The winner is the first player to achieve 200 (positive) points.

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209. At no time may there be more than 25 mutable rules.

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210. Players may not conspire or consult on the making of future rule-changes unless they are team-mates.

The first paragraph of this rule does not apply to games by mail or computer.

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211. If two or more mutable rules conflict with one another, or if two or more immutable rules conflict with one another, then the rule with the lowest ordinal number takes precedence.

If at least one of the rules in conflict explicitly says of itself that it defers to another rule (or type of rule) or takes precedence over another rule (or type of rule), then such provisions shall supersede the numerical method for determining precedence.

If two or more rules claim to take precedence over one another or to defer to one another, then the numerical method again governs.

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212. If players disagree about the legality of a move or the interpretation or application of a rule, then the player preceding the one moving is to be the Judge and decide the question. Disagreement for the purposes of this rule may be created by the insistence of any player. This process is called invoking Judgment.

When Judgment has been invoked, the next player may not begin his or her turn without the consent of a majority of the other players.

The Judge's Judgment may be overruled only by a unanimous vote of the other players taken before the next turn is begun. If a Judge's Judgment is overruled, then the player preceding the Judge in the playing order becomes the new Judge for the question, and so on, except that no player is to be Judge during his or her own turn or during the turn of a team-mate.

Unless a Judge is overruled, one Judge settles all questions arising from the game until the next turn is begun, including questions as to his or her own legitimacy and jurisdiction as Judge.

New Judges are not bound by the decisions of old Judges. New Judges may, however, settle only those questions on which the players currently disagree and that affect the completion of the turn in which Judgment was invoked. All decisions by Judges shall be in accordance with all the rules then in effect; but when the rules are silent, inconsistent, or unclear on the point at issue, then the Judge shall consider game-custom and the spirit of the game before applying other standards.

A record of precedents set by judges will be kept for players to reference. The wording of each precedent will be determined by the judge to set that precedent.

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213. If there is only one active player remaining, and no other players become active and no new players join within a reasonable time, the remaining active player is the winner.

This rule takes precedence over every other rule determining the winner.

WOAH THAT TOOK A LONG F*KIN TIME TO READ.

These rules are from Peter Suber's Initial Ruleset, with some modifications for ease of jump-in web play.

1. No unanimous voting at gamestart.

2. No "if play can't continue the last completed turn is the winner". Points or Last ParLIARmental person standing.

3. IMMUTABLE INACTIVE PLAYER RULES. AKA 117 & 118. These say that if the game doesn't progress in 24 hours then whoever was supposed to do something last gets slammed in the teeth with a big stamp of INACTIVITY.

4. Judges rulings are recorded for posterity. I'll probably begrudgingly do this in a second post.

5. Turn order will be dictated by the order you join the game.

Playerlist and their statuses

• Schazer (active) - 8 Points - 1 Bugbird Staff Nomber
  
• [strike]Chwoka (inactive) - 10 Points - 1 Banker Staff Nomber[/strike]
  
• Loather (active) - 0 Points - 1 Bonetractor Staff Nomber
  
• Shredded (active) - 0 Points - 1 Clockface Staff Nomber
  
• Reyweld (active) - 0 Points
  

Rules (as of Post #2)
Immutable Rules

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SpoilerSame as the OP, yo.

Mutable Rules

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SpoilerMutable Rules
201. Players shall alternate in clockwise order, taking one whole turn apiece. Turns may not be skipped or passed, and parts of turns may not be omitted. All players begin with zero points.

In mail and computer games, players shall alternate according to the order they joined the game.

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202. One turn consists of two parts in this order: (1) proposing one rule-change and having it voted on, and (2) subtracting 291 from the ordinal number of their proposal, multiplying the result by the fraction of favorable votes it received, rounded to the nearest integer. (This yields a number between 0 and 10 for the first player, with the upper limit increasing by one each turn; more points are awarded for more popular proposals.)

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203. A rule-change is adopted if and only if the vote is a simple majority.

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204. If and when rule-changes can be adopted without unanimity, the players who vote against winning proposals shall receive 10 points each.

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205. An adopted rule-change takes full effect at the moment of the completion of the vote that adopted it.

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206. When a proposed rule-change is defeated, the player who proposed it loses 10 points.

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207. Each player always has exactly one vote.

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208. The winner is the first player to achieve 200 (positive) points.

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209. At no time may there be more than 25 mutable rules.

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210. Players may not conspire or consult on the making of future rule-changes unless they are team-mates.

The first paragraph of this rule does not apply to games by mail or computer.

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211. If two or more mutable rules conflict with one another, or if two or more immutable rules conflict with one another, then the rule with the lowest ordinal number takes precedence.

If at least one of the rules in conflict explicitly says of itself that it defers to another rule (or type of rule) or takes precedence over another rule (or type of rule), then such provisions shall supersede the numerical method for determining precedence.

If two or more rules claim to take precedence over one another or to defer to one another, then the numerical method again governs.

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212. If players disagree about the legality of a move or the interpretation or application of a rule, then the player preceding the one moving is to be the Judge and decide the question. Disagreement for the purposes of this rule may be created by the insistence of any player. This process is called invoking Judgment.

When Judgment has been invoked, the next player may not begin his or her turn without the consent of a majority of the other players.

The Judge's Judgment may be overruled only by a unanimous vote of the other players taken before the next turn is begun. If a Judge's Judgment is overruled, then the player preceding the Judge in the playing order becomes the new Judge for the question, and so on, except that no player is to be Judge during his or her own turn or during the turn of a team-mate.

Unless a Judge is overruled, one Judge settles all questions arising from the game until the next turn is begun, including questions as to his or her own legitimacy and jurisdiction as Judge.

New Judges are not bound by the decisions of old Judges. New Judges may, however, settle only those questions on which the players currently disagree and that affect the completion of the turn in which Judgment was invoked. All decisions by Judges shall be in accordance with all the rules then in effect; but when the rules are silent, inconsistent, or unclear on the point at issue, then the Judge shall consider game-custom and the spirit of the game before applying other standards.

A record of precedents set by judges will be kept for players to reference. The wording of each precedent will be determined by the judge to set that precedent.

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213. If there is only one active player remaining, and no other players become active and no new players join within a reasonable time, the remaining active player is the winner.

This rule takes precedence over every other rule determining the winner.


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301. At the end of each Turn, each active player may procure a Staff Nomber, up to a maximum of 5 Staff Nombers. Each player will have a different type of Staff Nomber with a unique Title, to be chosen when the player acquires their first Staff Nomber. All subsequent Staff Nombers procured by that player will share the Title. The Title must be a single word not found in the Initial Ruleset.

At the time of this Rule's enactment, Staff Nombers serve no purpose other than for players to personalise their campaigns. Maybe we can exchange them for votes or political favours or internships or the like? It is a mystery

Judges' Rulings

Rule 301 is interpreted, however ambiguously worded, as indicating each player may acquire a single Staff Nomber per turn end. They may perform the aforementioned action once at the end of each turn, unless they already have the maximum number of Staff Nombers (as of this ruling, 5.)

join't

can we kick out chwoka for bringing drug slang to this wholesome family game

i was thinking like elbow

Barring a majority objection from the existing Players, I'd like to propose a 24-hour grace period for people to join in before the "fun" begins.

Objection

sustained, speed is the name of the game

well thats a majority of the existing players, lets get this show on the road

proposal: loather is the judge now

counter-proposal: the judge is Not Loather

Ok, my proposal:

At the end of each Turn, each active player may procure a Staff Nomber, up to a maximum of 5 Staff Nombers. Each player will have a different type of Staff Nomber with a unique Title, to be chosen when the player acquires their first Staff Nomber. The Title must be a single word not found in the Initial Ruleset.

At the time of this Rule's enactment, Staff Nombers serve no purpose other than for players to personalise their campaigns. Maybe we can exchange them for votes or political favours or internships or the like? It is a mystery

This institutes a currency of some sort. If anyone's got decisions right now about what that currency can buy, or specific rules for trading, then I'm all ears to amend this sucker.

So if this gets enacted, I'll acquire myself one Bugbird Staff Nomber, and Loather has indicated she'd opt for a Bonetractor Staff Nomber. They can go run errands and sleep around behind our hard-working parliamentarian backs. Good times!

counter-proposal: the judge is Not Loather

counter-counter proposal: the judge simultaneously is and is not loather

shouldn't that be rule 301?

im in favor of staff nombers

i'm out-of-favor of staff nombers but i think i'm overruled. i support loather's proposal for shroedinger's judge

Fixed so the number is now right! and also because I think I made the naming dealie unclear. Think of these like your factional units, for as-yet unspecified purposes.

At the end of each Turn, each active player may procure a Staff Nomber, up to a maximum of 5 Staff Nombers. Each player will have a different type of Staff Nomber with a unique Title, to be chosen when the player acquires their first Staff Nomber. All subsequent Staff Nombers procured by that player will share the Title. The Title must be a single word not found in the Initial Ruleset.

At the time of this Rule's enactment, Staff Nombers serve no purpose other than for players to personalise their campaigns. Maybe we can exchange them for votes or political favours or internships or the like? It is a mystery

Loather can propose an amendment to 212 when it rolls around to their turn. For now, I would like to call all active players to vote on Proposal 301.

I Vote in favour.

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no it is not

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it will be mine when schazer's turn is done, but first we have to vote on schazer's rule. i'm against it

i'm for it

It is not! We currently have no actual rules about when new people can join in. I think you can jump straight in and vote on Proposal 301, unless Grand Judge Loather disagrees.

Current votes on Proposal 301 (as detailed in Post #18):

For - Schazer, Loather
Against - Chwoka
Abstaining - Shredded