Lucidstuck II

>Lucia: Is this really Alice? Ask when's her birthday to confirm.

also, i just need to add this just in case DD CAN hear us....

>Daydream: Whatever you're thinking, please don't attack Lucia. And yes, this IS the real Lucia. She got here while confronting her shadow. It's complicated, but we can probably explain if you want us to.

>Lucia: Hold your tongue



You take a deep breath and recall what your friend Vhieness congratulated you on.

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Daydream: ... Hm? What was it?
Lucia: ... It was kinda fuzzy actually.
Lucia: Hey, do you think you could remind me actually? My memory hasn't been the greatest since I got caught up in all this.
Daydream: ..... Heh, funny thing. Memories.
Daydream: You know, I muse through memories here? It's how everything flows.
Daydream: See how I'm standing here talking to you?
Daydream: By not combing through the events that trap us here, time is at a stand-still.
Daydream: And frankly I think I've had enough of it.
Lucia: Then just shut this place down.
Daydream: I can't. Although I created it the one we called the unknown entity has usurped the ability to dismantle it.
Daydream: For what reasons, I do not know.
Lucia: ......
Daydream: I... I know how to save Derrick!
Lucia: W-what??
Daydream: It's that damn Entity that's getting in our way. We need to kill it, and I have a plan to do so.
Lucia: ...... Okay.
Lucia: What's this plan of yours?
Daydream: You are the plan! Your powers allow you to kill the entity and in doing so, we can save Derrick and escape this place.
Daydream: I fucked up before I know, but...
Daydream: Nothing else matters! Do you understand??
Lucia: .....

You hear Alice's words but they rub you the wrong way. Although they seem sincere you cannot ignore your negative feelings for her.

1. Hear her out.
2. Call bullshit

2.) Call out the horseshit

>Lucia: pretend to listen to what she has to say, stay VERY skeptical, because it's obviously bullshit

>Lucia: pretend to listen to what she has to say, stay VERY skeptical, because it's obviously bullshit

Seconded

>3: Do both. You can think that she's sincere about saving Derrick and also not trust her enough to just follow her lead. If you both truly want the same thing, then both of you working towards it independently for now should accomplish it, or at least buy so you can learn more and make a better decision later. After that you can settle your differences. In the meantime though, she's not being upfront with you, if that's really her to begin with and not the UE. Your illusion revealing item showed that she wasn't actually there before, but don't let her know how you know that.

>Lucia: pretend to listen to what she has to say, stay VERY skeptical, because it's obviously bullshit

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Lucia: Whew, I'm gunna need to sit down for this.
Lucia: So Alice, explain this brilliant plan of yours.
Daydream: Ahh, I'm glad I have your cooperation.
Daydream: Well as we know, the Entity can change its form, so it's hard to tell who or what it is, or where.
Daydream: But I have a gift as the princess of illusions...
Lucia: Mhm.
Daydream: I can tell when something isn't what it appears to be. Makes sense, since I am the master.
Lucia: Cool.
Lucia: How does this help?
Daydream: We're going to lead it into a trap.
Lucia: Okay, a trap. How do we trap this elusive powerful creature.
Daydream: By giving it what it wants. A way out.
Lucia: Wait wait wait...
Lucia: You want us to trap the Entity... By what, dangling an exit key in its face?
Lucia: Meanwhile the entity is stopping you from dismantling the construct... Which would be what it wants...?
Lucia: It sounds like its in the way of its own escape plan. Pretty dumb.
Daydream: .... I don't know why its stopping me from taking down the construct, but it still wants to get out.
Lucia: Again, pretty dumb.
Lucia: Anyways, go on.
Lucia: So dumb plan, yada yada, and then what's the key and how does it get out.
Daydream: You. Seems besides myself, you too can dismantle the construct or at the very least, a disturbance.
Lucia: Pardon??
Daydream: I didn't understand it either, but after a while of viewing memories I noticed a pattern.
Daydream: Your behaviour sometimes causes things to become "unhinged".
Daydream: I believe the entity intends to use you as a way out.
Lucia: Sooo, I'm the bait?
Daydream: Yes. But you're no weakling.
Lucia: Well why hasn't it reached me yet?
Daydream: You've been in a precarious position for most of the constructs life, Lucia. And now that you are no longer in that situation I think that you may be in danger.
Lucia: What's it going to do, kill me?
Daydream: No.
Daydream: It will manipulate you some way and somehow to make an exit.
Daydream: You're going to have to wait until you're sure that you know what form it's taken...
Daydream: And then you're going to discreetly inform me so I can examine the suspect.
Daydream: Once I confirm, you will strike it down with your...
Daydream: Deadly technique...
Daydream: Once you kill it, it will no longer have a hold on the construct and I can dismantle it.
Lucia: How does Derrick get saved after all this?
Daydream: He will live because this construct is the only thing keeping him "dead".
Daydream: My memory used to be that he was killed and I stopped his death from being a reality but...
Daydream: I had come to realize that he was almost killed, and I had avoided the outcome with the formation of the construct.
Daydream: Once dismantled we can finally rid ourselves of this lucid nightmare we're stuck in, don't you see??
Lucia: .....
Daydream: Has anything I said been unclear?
Lucia: ..... You speak rather well. More formal than I remember.
Lucia: Tell me, what do you think of me?
Daydream: ... Those events we left behind. The only thing that matters is the future.

Even while taking every word breathed by Alice with a grain of salt, it seems to make sense to you. You don't really recall what did or didn't happen and at this point who is to say?

>Lucia: Call out the bullshit, because you know where this goes, it is going to tell you to attack Derrick

>Lucia: This bluh bluh 'huge bitch' keeps avoiding the question when it comes to specifics, about the past. Why? After asking you about the past so much? What's this double standard? "What's your deal?"

>Lucia: call bullshit, the unknown entity stopping the construct from being shut down and wanting to get out at the same time doesnt make sense, plus, waving the exit in the entity's face is suicide, what if it gets out? what if you are the unknown entity trying to manipulate me? "what's your deal?"

>Lucia: Tell Alice to prove her identity to you. Be skeptical, that last story sounded inconsistent, and the plan sounds pretty shitty. Ask her what her deal is anyways.

>Lucia: Is this really Alice? Ask when's her birthday to confirm.

>Lucia:And how do you know for sure this is Alice and not UE? Ask her hat her deal is.

>Lucia: Is this really Alice? Ask when's her birthday to confirm.

Nothing makes sense and I'm scared for Lucia.... Soo, par for the course i Guess :))

Seconding.

>Lucia: So how would UE try to manipulate you? By pretending to be Alice and saying that making an exit is the way to kill it?

I feel like it's trying to trick us by telling us the real daydream is actually the UE. It's straight up telling us it's own plan for escape. Like I say, I feel like it's going to point us in Alice's direction and say "There, that's the UE! Get it!"

>Lucia: Is this really Alice? Ask when's her birthday to confirm

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Lucia: Y'know, there's just something I can't understand.
Daydream: And what's that?
Lucia: How after all this time you still remain to be a conniving snake. Like what's your deal?
Daydream: .... I'm not sure I follow.
Lucia: Do you really think I'm going to put my ass on the line for your stupid plan? I mean it has more holes than surface.
Lucia: You seem to be awful sure that it will work, why is that?
Daydream: ....
Lucia: It's fucking sketchy at best, Alice. Just like you.
Daydream: .....
Lucia: Do you remember anything at all about yourself? How old are you?
Lucia: When were you born?
Daydream: Why are you asking me these things?
Lucia: Because you're acting sketchy. It's a test.
Lucia: Answer to prove you're not full of bullshit.
Daydream: .... Very well...
Daydream: In the current year I will be turning 16. My birth date is on december the 23rd.
Lucia: ......
Daydream: Are you satisfied?

You actually don't know Alice's birth date, so this doesn't help your suspicion.

>Lucia: Change the subject. Get Alice to talk more about things you and her both know about. Ask her why she hates you so much.

>Lucia: Change the subject. Get Alice to talk more about things you and her both know about. Ask her why she hates you so much.

It's pretty clear to pretty much everyone that Alice hates Lucia cause of Derrick, so this wouldn't really be a productive line of questioning. I'm unseconding it.

>Lucia: Change the subject. Get Alice to talk more about things you and her both know about. Ask her why she hates you so much.

It's pretty clear to pretty much everyone that Alice hates Lucia cause of Derrick, so this wouldn't really be a productive line of questioning. I'm unseconding it.

But does UE know that?

But does UE know that?

I think it's come up at least once in our conversation with Garreth.

>Lucia: Alice and Derrick are twins, remember? They'd have the same birthday. You could always double check with Derrick later. But more importantly, you know that this "alice" is an illusion thanks to your blades, but don't let her know that so it's harder to make countermeasures. Why don't you try touching her, and then use that as an excuse for knowing why she's an illusion.

>Lucia: Alice and Derrick are twins, remember? They'd have the same birthday. You could always double check with Derrick later. But more importantly, you know that this "alice" is an illusion thanks to your blades, but don't let her know that so it's harder to make countermeasures. Why don't you try touching her, and then use that as an excuse for knowing why she's an illusion.

The first part to this will only make Lucia trust UE more if the second part doesn't take.

>Lucia: ask about the second presence ira felt here a bit ago, ask her to introduce you to her friend, who are they? why did they suddenly vanish as you arrived? this is all extremely suspect