Buzzfia - Party Preparations - Night 7 (10/22 live)

Ok so the night of self discovery was triggered by my death. Everyone who I'd sent a letter to would have any nightactions redirected to themselves, and would also become roleblock immune for the night. I don't really know how the sick day affected things, though.

Sunspider Rolls Fuzzy Dice

Sunspider has been killed!

Sunspider Rolls Fuzzy Dice

Sunspider got a prize!

When I have more time (I am starting a game today...) or when someone else wants, some votal analysis reg. Thalia should be done. In particular, I'm curious about Day 6's Sunspider lynch train since we knew she was a 3rd party.

Reyweld: To be clear, Sunspider was killed but survived?

I should be what

You are/were a scumteam member. So your allies probably reacted in interesting ways with respect to you. Looking at how people voted with respect to you (your lynch wagon, how you voted, how they voted, etc.) can suggest how people are acting with respect to you and hint if they might be co-aligned with you or not.

Oh right.

Yeahhh when day phase closed off I was thinking to myself "if Thalia flips badly they're going to look very anti-town" bc iirc they've been a solid Thalia-defender even before her lynch/suspicions became a hot topic in D6:

honestly if I had to pick a third party claim that I think is a traitor at this point it'd be Thalia, because that seems like an absurdly difficult win condition + is great cover for an eavesdropping traitor role

like I pointed out, thalia’s wincon IS concomitant with the difficulty of other 3p wincons. Sol won when all living players had been both cursed AND cured by her (not to mention the fact that she handed out desperado badges when cursing, which makes the “living” part exponentially harder). RL as far as I understand needs to stump half of “all players,” something which may not actually be mathematically achievable even if there’s only 2 deaths per day/night cycle (sans other stump roles or item duplication).

if anything, thalia’s wincon is EASIER than what we’ve seen so far. so I more ir less believe it. that’s also why I question sunspider’s “I’m just a survivor” bit.
again, there's a reason I’ve been checking wincons :p

ooh, I missed that post you made about people’s comments d1. I deeeeefinitely feel better about ac now. also thalia’s comments are definitely odd for someone who claimed 3p later, but otoh as far as I can tell neither Solaris nor pilot’s (nor my) role pm actually USE the words “third party.” Thalia miiiight not have actually known they were one until it was pointed out... not sure if they’ve played in any normal games.
JWatch worrying about “hostile 3ps” early d1 is definitely hmm

man, I can’t believe mirdini managed to shoot town when he could have shot almost anyone else and hit a 3p...

(D3 and D4 quotes respectively)

*if Thalia flips badly seedy's going to look very anti-town

Bid E 2, I kinda want to try my luck eventually.

ah shoot I have to deal with suspicion stuff even after death??
Ok so seedy was generally helpful toward town, especially during the jwatch and ac suspicioun periods. Also they tried to get people to vote so I guess that’s something

So you're saying that you think Seedy is a great addition to the town and that they're definitely not scum, in summary?

I was gonna say “oh cool we can kill Sunspider now” but then I realized that it probably doesn’t make any sense for her to have repeatedly said “Pala thinks Thalia’s scum and must die” if they’re aligned

as to my own position on Thalia, well, what can I say but “I did claim 3p, you know”

Also I can place anonymous votes on people too now so,
you better watch out
you better watch out
You better watch out
YOU BETTER WATCH OUT
YOU BETTER WATCH OUT
Y O U B E T T E R W A T C H O U T
Y O U B E T T E R W A T C H O U T

Hey Wheat, I'm thinking that the FNS ratings may not be all that reflective of what people think now. Take for example, my FNS rating of Thalia:

Thalia V1: Friendly (Numbers)

It should be quite obvious that my Day 6 vote doesn't really reflect this, as my FNS rating was from day 3, and my Day 6 vote had facts to back itself up. Maybe you could issue out a newer one today, so people don't get confused by old news?

Also, Spoids, what are your current Suspicions & Not-Town Votes From Beyond The Grave?

Yeah, I'm gonna Vote Seedy

When I have more time (I am starting a game today...) or when someone else wants, some votal analysis reg. Thalia should be done. In particular, I'm curious about Day 6's Sunspider lynch train since we knew she was a 3rd party.

Reyweld: To be clear, Sunspider was killed but survived?

a. how do we *know* sunspider is a 3P again, I thought all we had was confirmation that she wasn't town + her claim of being 3rd party (which, when combined with the fact that she is one of the people who visited me on the night I got killed, well)

b. where are you getting Sunspider was killed but survived from

Sunspider Rolls Fuzzy Dice

Sunspider has been killed!

Sunspider Rolls Fuzzy Dice

Sunspider got a prize!

oh right missed this disregard the killed question

Uh, Reyweld literally said they were a "benign 3P". It was the delayed celebrity part of their role. Do you want me to fetch the post?

Like what even are the reigning claims at this point, let me try to make a list:

1. Robust Laser - Third Party Branch Hoarder
2. Mirdini - Town [the full role name is in the gamestart]
3. Numbers - No claim?
4. LegendaryQ - No claim?
5. Justice Watch - Third Party Life-having Survivor
6. Myeth - Town? Jim Davis
7. awkwardcarapace - Town? Lifegiver
8. Lordlyhour - Third Party Item Party
9. . - ?????
10. Seedy - Mystery Third Party
11. Sunspider - Benign Third Party

so uh, by my count unless *several* of the claimed third parties are mafia or the scum team was like, two people we could easily be in the 'third parties and mafia technically outnumber town' hellzone

Uh, Reyweld literally said they were a "benign 3P". It was the delayed celebrity part of their role. Do you want me to fetch the post?

I apparently clean forgot about that which shows how much I've been paying attention to this game

anyway I went and fetched it myself but I really don't see how

(Delayed) Celebrity Role Call

Sunspider is the Advice Columnist, aka the CultistJailerCopDoctorBlocker RechargingTanker Beloved-Princess LostChest DelayedCelebrity who is a Benign 3P (Third Party).

lines up with the fact that aC and Sunspider visited me on N5 and I gained and lost a life

and since aC has claimed giving me that life, unless Sunspider wants to counterclaim I can only conclude Sunspider shot me? Which Does Not line up with that celebrity role *at all*.

Myeth: do you get to see anyone who visits me or only if they're also fellow garfield characters?

I know the name of every person that visits you, garfield pawn or not.

And before i forget!
vote: Seedy
I think we found our mafia

Yeah, now with Traitor Thalia confirmed, Seedy does look bad. Vote: Seedy.