Buzzfia - Party Preparations - Night 7 (10/22 live)

THE BLOOD MOON RISES, AND WITH IT I DIE

I LIVE

AND I DIE AGAIN

SCHAZER N O -

Schazer why

Wheat already Graveslammed theirself, silly.

I dont know what's going on but i can sense bloodshed

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Dearest WheatAre you kinda salty that you're unable to do anything but bark at shadows as a ghost-in-the-machine now? I feel for you, but... this isn't the first time this game you've tried to push to vote for someone Benign rather than an actual Traitor, which I've argued against. And heck, if you hadn't done that to yourself, you wouldn't be in this position right now would ya? So maybe do us all a favor and question your kneejerk theories about me? Just for a moment, believe that your unearned certainty that I'm a Bad Guy could be mistaken.

I'm not a cult recruiter, jailer, a tumor, or whatever other mud you're slinging this way. I refuse to say what I can do beyond that I'm a survivor and someone pretty capable of protecting others, and that I want to be and am capable of being a better ally to y'all than to the Traitors. Unless you're literally gonna sit here barking, trust nothing, and muddy the waters with confused lynch-mob ramblings? Coming against me with baseless theories that all seem made to prove a foregone conclusion (that I'm an enemy) more than you want to figure out the truth? In which case, you're wasting votes and time to kill a friend again, and making me into an enemy, when I don't want to be one. I'm here to have fun, and I'm here to help.

Guess it's your prerogative, whether you want to shoot yourself in the foot a second time or not.

I'm just here to have fun

((I'm not treating this game *as* seriously as I would, say, a completely straight game, because it's goofy and meant to be a relatively relaxed fun time! In a completely straight game, I probably would've waited for consultation, and votes, and a final warning to my target, before firing off a daykill. But this isn't that!

That's not to say I'm not playing to my win condition, I am, but it does mean I'll be a bit more cavalier with abilities etc. than I'd be in a non-clusterfuck game, yeah! Now you can accept that, or you keep posting about how people aren't playing optimally, your choice.

Like, when Granola blew up on Schazer in RCF3, if you'd been in that game if he'd survived would you have spent the next two pages getting mad about that? Live a little!))

Despite being trapped in literal backstabbing corporate netherworld hell with y'all, same. This whole situation is a big publicity stunt by the CEO. A sham. A game, even. And I don't want to take it too seriously. I'm trying to do the right thing here, alright? So let me do that. I've been outed as a 3rd Party here, and it's true, I don't have to help y'all, but I want to because I can. And because my skills make me better equipped to work with you than against you.

...and also maybe I should say, on account of the Purple Heart Gummies. Palamedes gave me the go-ahead to share that we are Purple Heart Buddies now, which gave us a private 2-way chat. When they beefed it last night, they also let me inherit the "Graveslammer x 4" part of their role. So, if anyone really wants to fight me, there's a number of reasons that would hurt your teammates, including me being QUITE CAPABLE of being petty about it. So maybe don't?

On that point, allow me to CHANNEL PALAMEDES TO LET THEM SPEAK FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, WOOOOO~~

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◦ Pala would like me to share that everyone else who voted to lynch a52 yesterday came up as Not Town (amosmyn, Solaris, Mirdini, LegendaryQ, Lordlyhour, ProfessorLizzard).

◦ Their Graveslam order was a52 -> Solaris -> Amosmyn -> LegendaryQ. Their revenge kills ran out on Amosmyn, but Pala finds them "Suspect As Hell."

◦ They targeted people on yesterday's a52 wagon, because they were killed twice (they had an extra life) which "made it pretty clear that someone there really wanted me (them) gone."

◦ LegendaryQ was more of a whim because Pala didn't expect to get that far, but they "felt sort of weird about them passively providing excuses to my role reveal", which "felt vaguely off."

◦ They think a52 was probably scum, or was targeted by something that let them copy their flip. Personally, I think that a52's role might've just been to be hard to kill, and to copy and echo roles/actions used on them, given how Myeth's Odie-Push was echoed (according to Wheat), and Pala's Graveslam was the last thing they echoed before being killed by it. Hence them baiting people into hitting them.

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This has been Sunspider, advice columnist, bootleg medium, and professional shitbag, signing off from my CEO's basement.

The CEO continues: "Junior will continue to monitor this incident as it unfolds through the screen drone I've just deployed. It will be impervious to any of your interference, employees, so don't bother."

Schazer you just missed out on your graveslam, wheat is immortal now you dummy

Jon is immortalised...

surely if we just try hard enough we can kill junior!

hhrrrrRRRRGGHHH...!

GRAVESLAM: WHEAT

nah i got nothing

Oh P.S. more VOICES FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE:

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◦ Wheat, Palamedes agrees that you should back off, and deal with roles that do things besides kill. Moreover, adding that if I had culted them, it would have reflected that on their roleflip. (We know they're confirmed Loyal because of their flip, and because it checks out with their earlier claim and actions).

◦ They also want to see Amosmyn get lynched. Which checks out with me.

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As such, Vote: Amosmyn. I have decided I want none of your six-pack, and no part of your weird orange-cola soda abomination cult.

Mirdini, you also came up as "Not Town" in Pala's report on a52's lynchwagon, so this daykill of dear old Schazer isn't a good look.

RobustLaser, who apart from Thalia have you stumped? It's gonna help us out in a 3P-ish game, if we know that.

Mirdini, you also came up as "Not Town" in Pala's report on a52's lynchwagon, so this daykill of dear old Schazer isn't a good look.

Mirdini is Paul from Sales, the Salesperson, aka the Celebrity Hated Miller Chest Tanker Tanker Tanker Tanker Tanker Tanker Bomb Graveslammer Graveslammer Graveslammer.

how many times I gotta quote this

in other news still waiting on at least tehpilot and jwatch to get back to us before I'm gonna start considering lynch options again

"Publicly revealed as a Miller", huh? That sounds like something a murderous Traitor would say.

Schazer graveslams Wheat, smashing up the remains of the Aldrin Jr. decoy. Wheat finds this very unsettling, but it has no effect on their well-being or stump status.

AGAIN I have to say that if someone day activates we are SUPPOSED to STOP TALKING even if we don’t think anything will happen

I sorta forgot about the not-town wagon thing cuz it was confusing, I guess that’s where the vague sense of myeth claiming 3p came from? did Amos or Q say anything in specific

@sunspider: why did whatever ~power~ you have not protect the person who claimed to investigate a whole wagon and who you claim has a chat with you

"Publicly revealed as a Miller", huh? That sounds like something a murderous Traitor would say.

okay got my cough drops and the coffee stain off my vest and *clears throat* IF I MAY HAVE YOUR ATTENTION FOR A MOMENT.

MIRDINI'S ROLE MAY INCLUDE THE MILLER MODIFIER BUT THAT IS NO EXACT GUARANTEE THAT HE IS TOWN ALIGNED. FOR ALL WE KNOW HE COULD BE A MAFIA MEMBER WHO HAPPENS TO HAVE A ROLE MODIFIER THAT MAKES HIM CHECK AS MAFIA. NOT TO MENTION THAT ROLE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY INSANE FOR A MAFIA FACTION. IT IS FOR THIS REASON I'M NOT INTERESTED IN LEAPING DOWN HIS THROAT OVER ANY PERCEIVED SLIGHT YET, AS WELL AS MY ONGOING INABILITY TO GAUGE HOW ABSOLUTELY SERIOUSLY OR NON-SERIOUSLY I AM TO TAKE THIS GAME.

... ALTHOUGH I ADMIT SHIRKING MY DUTIES FOR THE LAST TWENTY OR SO PAGES IS NOT THE BEST LOOK. SO I AM CATCHING UP. MAYBE YOU ARE PULLING A FAST ONE ON US (OR ME) PUBLICLY IN WHICH CASE I ASK YOU FORGIVE MY DAFTNESS.

benign's not part of the role name though, that's a word of god word attached to the faction. presumably reyweld wouldn't for instance have a character be read as mafia but give them the town wincon anyway.

gonna blindly bandwagon right now, don't @ me

Vote: amosmyn because word on the street is lynches are good for town bc information or something and this has been a very low-vote day

seedy: Disregarding that we've already Broken The Seal on not posting after a day action, and there also isn't a rule against it in the OP, so, I kind of think we can just go Hog Wild in that respect?

everyone else: my being a miller in my role/celebrity role reveal is in no way proof of my being town, I agree!

however, it does mean that Palamedes' guilty check on me isn't proof I'm guilty, either, which is what I'm pointing at. Judge me on my dumbass conduct and the rest of my role, please, and if you wanna lynch me (or anyone else pala had a guilty on) based on that like wheat does, sure. But going 'Pala had a guilty on you!' isn't particularly convincing re: lynching because that was true for everyone he had a guilty on which includes *checks notes* amosmyn, sunspider, myeth, robust laser, and legendaryq as well as yours truly

Re: lynching claimed third party it wouldn't be amos, considering he's got a proven spezi-dispensing-cult ability and that jives pretty well with his apparent wincon of getting [x] spezis? So I'm not particularly happy with the wagon on him, tbh.

Honestly if there *was* scum on the Wheat wagon d1 I'd guess it's either LegendaryQ or Robust Laser or both (maaaybe amosmyn, outside shot of myeth though if myeth is anti-town I kind of think he's probably an anti-town 3p). All the folks going 'these people were on TWO TOWN LYNCHES!!!' also keep conveniently forgetting that the d1 lynch is absolutely worthless in that regard because in addition to the 7 votes on wheat there were TEN of you on the ~vending machine~ wagon which is just as scummy a thing to do by that metric, considering it had to be above 7 to guarantee wheat's lynch!

re: a52 lynch a52 was being actively scummy to try to let himself blow up, so as seedy has also pointed out that's pretty much a wash wrt scum-finding reliability. Like, scum are not going to eagerly lynch a townie who seems excited to get lynched, because, you know, they're *actually worried about bombs because they don't want to die* (see: Reecer6's post #451). They're far more likely to have been sitting on other wagons or not voting at all on d2, if I had to evaluate it!

so yeah, Vote: Justice Watch, what's up with you friend

p.s. I really like how engaged and interested in figuring out the game Reecer6 seems to be and that makes me want to lean town on him but I cannot shake the feeling he's not :/

thoughts on that, other folks?

honestly if I had to pick a third party claim that I think is a traitor at this point it'd be Thalia, because that seems like an absurdly difficult win condition + is great cover for an eavesdropping traitor role

bonus point: my being on the a52 wagon says nothing about my towniness because I have a dumb amount of lives and if I was scum would not be worried about losing one or two to look townier, yes. That part of my point was more about the other people on that wagon (which makes me feel better about Lordly and LQ, and worse about Laser and Reecer6)

Even More Bonus Votals, or, EVBotals

amosmyn (4) - LegendaryQ, ProfessorLizzard, Sunspider, Reecer6
Numbers (2) - Myeth, LordlyHour
LegendaryQ (1) - Seedy
Sunspider (1) - amosmyn
Justice Watch (1) - Mirdini
Mirdini (1) - Numbers

Abstaining (7) - Robust Laser, Thalia V1, dunnergy, Justice Watch, awkwardcarapace, , Tehpilot

Bbbbbbbbbbonus Bids

A. Fuzzy Dice - 2 coins - Sunspider
B. Nerf gun - 6 coins - Amosmyn
C. Suspicious Medal - 2 coins - Robust Laser
E. Minty Fresh Gum - 2 coins - Myeth
F. Granola Bar - 1 coin - Sunspider
G. Energy Drink - 2 coins - Reecer6

With 17 votes present, it takes 5 to soft lynch and 9 to hard lynch. Day ends in 37 hours (27th October, 2:30 pm EST).

honestly if I had to pick a third party claim that I think is a traitor at this point it'd be Thalia, because that seems like an absurdly difficult win condition + is great cover for an eavesdropping traitor role

like I pointed out, thalia’s wincon IS concomitant with the difficulty of other 3p wincons. Sol won when all living players had been both cursed AND cured by her (not to mention the fact that she handed out desperado badges when cursing, which makes the “living” part exponentially harder). RL as far as I understand needs to stump half of “all players,” something which may not actually be mathematically achievable even if there’s only 2 deaths per day/night cycle (sans other stump roles or item duplication).

if anything, thalia’s wincon is EASIER than what we’ve seen so far. so I more ir less believe it. that’s also why I question sunspider’s “I’m just a survivor” bit.
again, there's a reason I’ve been checking wincons :p

@sunspider: why did whatever ~power~ you have not protect the person who claimed to investigate a whole wagon and who you claim has a chat with you

I don't really plan on lynching spoids because of the risks involved due to their role but I'd really like to hear an answer to this question. I'm not gonna be super thrilled if the answer is "lolz 3rd party," especially since the strongest reasons to keep 'em alive is their purported helpful abilities and the Palamedes thing, both of which we're pretty much taking with no solid proof besides attempting to interpret the role title reveal?

Wheat: Seedy=Friendly, ProfessorLizzard=Suspicious, Tehpilot=Neutral

I really need to go to bed so I can go more into these tomorrow but there ya are.