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05-12-2016, 10:05 PM
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Yeah, I've been thinking that myself. Just from a purely strategic standpoint, not altering this one event that obviously has some kind of emotional effect on basically the entire situation seems rather foolish. Like, not even trying it once out of curiosity?
Also, huge props to IP for portraying a Christian actually behaving the way a Christian is supposed to behave.
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05-12-2016, 10:08 PM
(05-12-2016, 10:05 PM)Xindaris Wrote: »Also, huge props to IP for portraying a Christian actually behaving the way a Christian is supposed to behave.
Seconded. Good job.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 10:48 PM
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(05-12-2016, 09:32 PM)tornskippito Wrote: »Piper: Go Grimdark
Honestly, I have no commands. After Emily exits though, we may need her (or preferably lucia) to check up on Derrick's state.
Hello new reader, welcome to our darkest hour.
I however do still have a command ...i seem to be lousy with them of late >_>)
>Bob: (pick at the stitches around your mouth until they tear out) Daydream, please listen carefully, we may not have much time before Emily is pulled back to the main timeline. To be honest we've been rather ambivalent towards you all this time, not fully sure whether we can trust you. But seeing as how you kept your promise and how Emily has readily offered to help you, i believe we can trust you to make the right choices with her as your moral compass. There is already a version of Derrick which hates you and who probably knows everything you've done. And he's slowly clawing his way inside the construct. We're talking about Nightmare. You may not know, but it's already possessed Derrick at-least once, imbuing him with his dark unfathomable powers. It effortlessly plunged Zendo, a boss monster, into an endless night devoid of any feeling within his own mind, which lasted for eons until everything Zendo once was, even his name, became lost to him. We know not yet the full scope of his ambition, but we do know it's game-changing. And it involves the Arena of Darkness. So you may continue unabated, heedless of our warning, but just know that one of these instances while you're having your little fun, you will slip into the dreamlands without you knowing, and he will be waiting there, in Derrick's place, ready to tear you apart into bloody pieces from the inside-out. So for your own sake and Derrick's, make an effort to change your ways. Make this the iteration where everything is fixed. You have the power to undo the damage that you've caused, not many get that kind of second chance.
The reasons i believe Nightmare knows everything is:
-The reaper kids reporting every information back to him.
-His ability to uncover things hidden in Derrick's psyche.
-His ability to read the Fear in others which would allow him to pry into Alice's mind.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 11:11 PM
(05-12-2016, 10:48 PM)neferiusNexus Wrote: » (05-12-2016, 09:32 PM)tornskippito Wrote: »Piper: Go Grimdark
Honestly, I have no commands. After Emily exits though, we may need her (or preferably lucia) to check up on Derrick's state.
Hello new reader, welcome to our darkest hour.
I however do still have a command ...i seem to be lousy with them of late >_>)
>Bob: (pick at the stitches around your mouth until they tear out) Daydream, please listen carefully, we may not have much time before Emily is pulled back to the main timeline. To be honest we've been rather ambivalent towards you all this time, not fully sure whether we can trust you. But seeing as how you kept your promise and how Emily has readily offered to help you, i believe we can trust you to make the right choices with her as your moral compass. There is already a version of Derrick which hates you and who probably knows everything you've done. And he's slowly clawing his way inside the construct. We're talking about Nightmare. You may not know, but it's already possessed Derrick at-least once, imbuing him with his dark unfathomable powers. It effortlessly plunged Zendo, a boss monster, into an endless night devoid of any feeling within his own mind, which lasted for eons until everything Zendo once was, even his name, became lost to him. We know not yet the full scope of his ambition, but we do know it's game-changing. And it involves the Arena of Darkness. So you may continue unabated, heedless of our warning, but just know that one of these instances while you're having your little fun, you will slip into the dreamlands without you knowing, and he will be waiting there, in Derrick's place, ready to tear you apart into bloody pieces from the inside-out. So for your own sake and Derrick's, make an effort to change your ways. Make this the iteration where everything is fixed. You have the power to undo the damage that you've caused, not many get that kind of second chance.
The reasons i believe Nightmare knows everything is:
-The reaper kids reporting every information back to him.
-His ability to uncover things hidden in Derrick's psyche.
-His ability to read the Fear in others which would allow him to pry into Alice's mind.
i don't disagree that Nightmare knows everything as it does make sense for him to do know this, however i'm not sure how good an idea this command would be as it may put daydream vs nightmare when it seems the arena may be necessary to revive derrick....
>Emily: use your judgment to continue this conversation. Perhaps it would help to put things in perspective for Alice: if she was not Derrick sister and someone else was, would she still think that person doing the things she's done would be justified and correct, as her position as 'sister' and being closest to derrick? Only follow this line of thought if you think it would help the situation.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 11:23 PM
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(05-12-2016, 11:11 PM)Panur Wrote: »>Emily: use your judgment to continue this conversation. Perhaps it would help to put things in perspective for Alice: if she was not Derrick sister and someone else was, would she still think that person doing the things she's done would be justified and correct, as her position as 'sister' and being closest to derrick? Only follow this line of thought if you think it would help the situation.
Seconding.
Also, the reason i don't trust Nightmare is because, well, he seems just a tad too eager to invade Derrick's mind. So i doubt he's planning to just relinquish his existence just for the sake of Derrick getting a second chance.
However, what i DO find interesting is the fact that this version of Emily is the only one, so either she's the out-of-construct original, or she's the amalgamation of ALL the in-construct Emily instances, and seems to have all their memories.
Also,
Quote:Emily: After 30 minutes of waiting a group of people showed up.
Piper: Oh God...
Daydream: SHHH, PLEASE.
Emily: One of the boys had a bucket...
Emily: I looked at them all, thinking they were going to hurt me, but it was much worse.
Emily: The boy walked right up to me and dumped the bucket over my head...
Emily: It was gore.
Phew~!
For a moment there i thought things were going to get even more rape-y ...again!
I mean BUCKETS?! ...kids these days man >.>
But hey, it could've been worse... at-least Emily doesn't have telekinetic superpowers :I
Well, enough screwing around for me.
I hope we can figure this one out and give DD the help she needs, but in the end, only Time will Tell...
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05-13-2016, 12:59 AM
Well damn that was fucked up, I mean we all have done some fucked up things but JESUS.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-13-2016, 02:16 AM
Man, I'm at a loss for words with these past few updates. It's really great writing and I'm gonna have to wait a bit before I help with commands. Good job and good luck to the rest of you to figure out what to do next!
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05-13-2016, 02:37 AM
I think we all can do with a bit of cute after the updates, so here, have some AU where instead of piles of Trauma Derrick spends his summer having fun and learning about family with the kind of siblings he deserves.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-13-2016, 02:38 AM
woah. woah. he has the moon shirt and everything
woooooooaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-13-2016, 03:07 AM
If anyone needs some cute meds, I happen to have this on file: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a-xWhG4UU_Y
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-13-2016, 03:20 AM
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(05-13-2016, 03:07 AM)TheFoolOfThought Wrote: »If anyone needs some cute meds, I happen to have this on file: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a-xWhG4UU_Y
I'll do you one better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtN1YnoL46Q
(05-12-2016, 10:08 PM)tornskippito Wrote: »Seconded. Good job.
Thanks a lot and welcome!
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-13-2016, 08:31 AM
Wow, these are some pretty intense updates. Good job to Tt for calling some of them, although I'm not sure if it was him who called the alice on derrick rape(might have been Pan?0 Either way, good job to whoever called it.
I don't have much to say on the matter. Emily is making some very excellent points, and while it is clear that DD isn't LISTENING to what Emily is saying, it's clear that some of it is at least getting through to her, or at the very least, her armor is showing cracks, courtesy of emily.
I don't think this can be reversed, or undone. I do believe that Derrick will find out SOMEway, SOMEhow. Whether that be through his subconscious finding a way to let him know, or a person finding a way to let him know, he will find out. and we WILL have to deal with the consequences.
i don't hate Alice/DD, though. It is pretty clear that she is unrepentant, or at the very least, Alice is. Like I said, DD's armor is starting to crack, and I think if Emily doesn't manage to shatter it during her visit here, she'll at least manage to deal critical damage, and set it upon the road to destruction.
i believe we can salvage this. I have a feeling Derrick might want to kill her after this, and while I can't blame him, we can't let him. We can get everyone out of this alive. Even the Sociopathic rapists. I firmly believe that she can and will redeem herself in some way. She has to, or she WILL die. Don't give up on Alice/DD. Believe it or not, she CAN come back from this. You can always come back.
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05-13-2016, 08:37 AM
(05-13-2016, 02:37 AM)Panur Wrote: »I think we all can do with a bit of cute after the updates, so here, have some AU where instead of piles of Trauma Derrick spends his summer having fun and learning about family with the kind of siblings he deserves.
lil story snipped over my tumblr
Derrick: Where's the toilet?
Mabel: All of nature is your toilet!
Derrick: -_-)
Derrick: ...can I at least take a shower?
Dipper: There's a waterfall down that way...
Derrick: *wanders off*
Dipper: WATCH OUT FOR GNOMES!
(05-13-2016, 03:07 AM)TheFoolOfThought Wrote: »If anyone needs some cute meds, I happen to have this on file: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a-xWhG4UU_Y
Flufflepuff! /)^3^(\
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05-13-2016, 10:19 AM
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did someone mention... a BUCKET? dear god!
EDIT: speaking about Gravity falls, I found the unknown entity!
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05-13-2016, 03:13 PM
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DD better redeem herself; if she's utterly unrepentant, then we have no reason to root for her as a hero, we will have no reason to want to keep her alive, and she will die a villain.
Edit: And I would really hate to see that, because she was one of my fave characters. >.<
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-13-2016, 03:27 PM
(05-13-2016, 08:31 AM)Shadowfyst997 Wrote: »We can get everyone out of this alive. Even the Sociopathic rapists. I firmly believe that she can and will redeem herself in some way. She has to, or she WILL die. Don't give up on Alice/DD. Believe it or not, she CAN come back from this. You can always come back.
DD doesn't need to redeem herself to get out of here alive. Personally, I think having her labeled as an incestuous psychopathic rapist for the rest of her life in the real world would be the more fitting punishment. But that's something we'll need to work out between us before we do anything.
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05-13-2016, 04:17 PM
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iP, stop dropping bombshells so quickly! I still haven't finished with my Alice stuff and now I have to add more Emily to my queue of fanart as a coping mechanism for horrifying plot-twists!
I personally didn't follow the "Have some cute to alleviate the shock" style this time.
Said Fanart below:
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SpoilerJust some doodles from a notebook the class after reading the update:
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And what I drew that night while doing homework. I swear, my growth as an artist is tied directly to the amount trauma in Lucidstuck.
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Overall album with descriptions and stuff
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-14-2016, 12:59 AM
(05-12-2016, 10:05 PM)Xindaris Wrote: »Also, huge props to IP for portraying a Christian actually behaving the way a Christian is supposed to behave.
Yes indeed.
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails."
Daydream will refuse to listen if the circular nature of her logic (begging the question fallacy) is pointed out to her. I third Panur's suggestion.
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05-14-2016, 07:01 AM
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Emily: use your judgement to continue this conversation. Perhaps it would help to put things in perspective for Alice: if she was not Derrick sister and someone else was, would she still think that person doing the things she's done would be justified and correct, as her position as 'sister' and being closest to derrick? Only follow this line of thought if you think it would help the situation
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Emily: Alice think about this line of thinking.
Emily: If you weren't Derrick's sister. If you were just another girl, and Derrick's sister behaved like you.
Emily: What would you think? Would they be right in keeping Derrick to themselves? Is their love stronger just because they're related?
Daydream: .... No. Uhm...
Daydream: I guess it's just me.
Emily: I want you to say it.
Emily: Say that without a doubt, how you're behaving is in Derrick's best interest!
Daydream: .... It's--
Emily: Be Truthful! Can't you for once just think about someone other than yourself?
Emily: You only want Derrick to live because you know if he dies, you will want to as well.
Emily: You don't want to die.
Daydream: .........
Emily: So you're saving yourself. If you loved Derrick, you'd be able to let him go.
Daydream: That's....!
Emily: Familiar? It should be.
Emily: You think because Derrick was unconscious he wouldn't know what you did.
Emily: You tried to hide the truth. But it gets out.
Emily: Just like how I remembered, Derrick and Lucia will remember.
Emily: Lucas will... Oh, poor Lucas.
Emily: You're destroying us.
Daydream: ..... I'm doing my damned best here...
Emily: Well then why haven't you considered leaving Lucia alone?
Emily: Why haven't you considered leaving me alone?
Emily: Why haven't you considered leaving DERRICK alone??
Emily: If you did nothing, he would live.
Emily: You're keeping him here.
Daydream: I....
Daydream: ...I... I can't...
Daydream: I... -sniff-
Daydream: FUCK... I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE.
Emily: Oh no, you can't whimper your way out of this one.
Emily: This mess you created, it's tangled, but it can be straightened out.
Emily: Right?
Daydream: .... No, it's hopeless. I'm hopeless...
Daydream: I'm so screwed up, this hell will never end.
Emily: It will, with faith.
Daydream: Don't start with that shit, Emily...
Emily: Hear me out. Faith brought you here.
Emily: You believed you could save Derrick. You didn't know, you believed!
Emily: That's faith. You kept believing, and you'd die believing.
Daydream: I would... If I can't save Derrick, I'd never end this place.
Daydream: Nothing could make me. There's always an answer, even if I don't have it.
Daydream: It exists, and only time will tell.
Daydream: Here, I am time. So it's up to me.
Daydream: But, I am a human. I have a human mind, I was not meant to have such power.
Daydream: My head hurts so much... My heart is black and rotting...
Daydream: I think at some point... I lost my way.
Daydream: And I just review to scratch the itch I get every now and again when the loneliness becomes unbearable.
Daydream: My greatest fear is... That I'll settle for this life.
Daydream: I'll become content with being a God, forever selfishly getting my needs met while others suffer.
Emily: SEE, this is it!
Daydream: What?
Emily: This is your faith, you're so determined to save Derrick that you'd condemn yourself to this pain and suffering than to let him go because you know that there's a way. Some way, somehow.
Emily: What if I told you, I know how to save Derrick?
Daydream: ..... What..?
Daydream: I'd want to know how in the hell do you think that?
Emily: I'll tell you, but I'm going to need some requests.
Daydream: Anything. If you really can...
Daydream: You have all the resources.
Emily: First, forgive Lucia for everything. Clean slate.
Daydream: WHAT?! ABSOLUTELY--
Emily: Alice, this is only my first request. Just think, do you really want to save Derrick?
Daydream: .....
Daydream: Fine...
Emily: No more grudges, no more dirty looks, no more anything.
Emily: She is just a girl, a girl who could become your friend.
Emily: A girl who loves Derrick, and would never try to hurt him.
Emily: A girl you could respect for actually doing that since you sure didn't.
Daydream: ........ It'll be hard. But.
Daydream: For Derrick, Lucia is pardoned.
Emily: Next. When you get a chance, you must tell Derrick what you did to him.
Daydream: WHAT THE FUCK, EMILY?!
Emily: Remember what I said. Do. You. Want. To. SAVE. DERRICK?
Daydream: Oh God....
Emily: Regardless of how he takes it, you will also tell him how you feel about him.
Daydream: Emily....
Emily: Ahh, I'm not done.
Emily: You will also tell Lucas how you feel about him.
Emily: How you really feel. He is not your slave, and you're abusing his trust and loyalty.
Daydream: .............
Emily: And lastly, When you're not reviewing, I want you to bring me here.
Daydream: I'm most definitely not going to--
Emily: Ahh! What did I say?
Daydream: .... I can't just--
Emily: Ahh!
Daydream: WILL YOU STOP THAT?!
Emily: You are supposed to be like, a God or something right?
Emily: Just make it happen.
Emily: If I can work with you consistently, You can be saved.
Emily: If it were anyone else, ask yourself. Would they forgive you?
Daydream: No...
Emily: Well, I would. Criminals can be rehabilitated if they so desire.
Emily: I will be your shrink. It'd be good practice, and you could use a friend.
Daydream: Hm.
Emily: What do you say?
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Daydream: Fine. I'd do anything for Derrick, and I've tried everything at least fifty times.
Daydream: I'll humour you.
Emily: Good, with this, I'll be able to leave here.
Emily: How will you bring me back?
Daydream: When you least expect it, you'll be back.
Daydream: -sigh-
Daydream: I can't believe I killed and tortured you all those times and you were the only one who managed to get here.
Emily: ..... Yeah.
Daydream: So sorry about that.
Piper: If you're really sorry, you can show it by giving us a battle benefit!
Daydream: What do you want?
Piper: Well since Emily doesn't like fighting very much, and you're probably keeping an eye on us often. When we meet a monster that wants to give us trouble, give them a reason not to.
Daydream: I can't be bother--
Piper: Ahh! You DID torture Emily thousands of times, it's the least you could do.
Daydream: Ughh... Fine then. If something tries to piss you off, I'll let them know kindly that you're not to be trifled with.
Daydream: But what they do after that is on you.
Piper: Fair enough!
Daydream: Aliens you can speak now if there's anything you wish to say.
Daydream: Otherwise it's back to reviewing.
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05-14-2016, 12:34 PM
> Are you sure we can't play a game or something, or have you had too much stress for the "day"? I hope you don't mind the question!
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05-14-2016, 02:01 PM
> Emily you are super cute, and the way you helped Alice is super awesome. Be proud of who you are and what you do. Also, your really cute. So, props for that. Keep on being awesome.
There i've been wanting to say that for ages hehehehehehehe. I'm not even 100% sure why, she's not even the cutest but Emily must know! :3
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-14-2016, 02:23 PM
(05-14-2016, 11:24 AM)neferiusNexus Wrote: »Ok, i should probably revise my last command and gently let DD know that Nightmare is on the loose :I
>Bob: Daydream, please listen carefully, we may not have much time before Emily is pulled back to the main timeline. To be honest we've been rather ambivalent towards you all this time, not fully sure whether we can trust you. But seeing as how you kept your promise and how Emily has readily offered to help you, i believe we can trust you to make the right choices with her as your moral compass. It's about Nightmare. He's slowly clawing his way inside the construct. You may not know, but it's already possessed Derrick at-least once, imbuing him with his dark unfathomable powers. It effortlessly plunged Zendo, a boss monster, into an endless night devoid of any feeling within his own mind, which lasted for eons until everything Zendo once was, even his name, became lost to him. We know not yet the full scope of his ambition, but we do know it's game-changing. And it involves the Arena of Darkness. He may also want to save Derrick and return to his old life, or he may want to tear the Construct down just to spite you. He is very much a wild card in this regard, so i am deciding to fully side with you. Also, please, for your own sake and Derrick's, make an effort to change your ways. Make this the iteration where everything is fixed. You have the power to undo the damage that you've caused. Not many get that kind of second chance ...soo, is there a chance that you can stop Alice from ra... from taking advantage of Derrick this time around, or is it already too late? If so, maybe you could use Emily's time-traveling powers to repair that blunder? Since the Event Horizon is somewhat outside the normal time-stream of the Construct, you should be able to remember this conversation without having to create a stable time-loop first. Also, another thing that's been bugging me is... Lucas has been killing his in-construct self all these billions of iterations in order to keep up the charade, but Emily here is the only one we've seen thus far. What will happen with the in-construct selves once your plan succeeds? Will their memories merge with the originals? Will they outright replace the originals? And most importantly... what sort of faustian deal did you broker in order to erect the Construct in the first place?
Hey NN, you may want to change this speech a bit, since most of what you are saying already was addressed and agreed to by DD and Emily and it kind of sounds like we are rubbing shit on their face XDD
>Thank you both ladies for trying your best to get things solved, we are sure it wasn't easy for either of you. You've both been very strong. We'll continue to support you both to try and save everyone, we know for a fact that it can be accomplished and if we all work together towards this goal, our chances can only be better. Emily, you may not be able to talk to us directly out of of Even Horizon, but you may feel us 'nudging' you to do certain things, so if you are alone you may address us directly. Garry also knows about us so you can talk to him about it.
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05-14-2016, 02:28 PM
>*Applause*
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05-14-2016, 02:31 PM
(05-14-2016, 02:23 PM)Panur Wrote: »Hey NN, you may want to change this speech a bit, since most of what you are saying already was addressed and agreed to by DD and Emily and it kind of sounds like we are rubbing shit on their face XDD
Which part, i need to know what to take out :(
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-14-2016, 02:50 PM
>Bob: There's still the matter of lil mal Daydream. We have seen him target Lucas before he left his house to see Alice. Dealing with lil mal directly may be out of the question for you kids, but maybe bob can look after lucas and protect him. He'll probably need a disguise and the silly O.I is just making him stand out even more. Do you think we're ready for the outside world? Also can we give you a hug?
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