Nostalgfia - GAME OVER SCUM WIN

Okay so here is the situation as I see it, going by worst case scenarios.

World A, we mislynch Pharmacy, Reyweld and/or Laser are scum. Schazer dies, game over unless scum does something dumb.

World B, we mislynch Reyweld and Pharmacy is scum. Schazer dies, Pharmacy shoots twice, game over unless scum does something dumb.

World C, we don't lynch. If we're then in the one person scumteam of world B Pharmacy has to either play along or not, getting lynched either way. Other world is much more complicated, but still should end with at worst two dead town and a dead scum (Schazer, Reyweld, plus random third). We lynch Laser, game over.

Does this all make sense or am I crazy?

also of note: probably at least one piece of information is wrong, since we had to vote on if we even wanted to continue this. So I'm probably putting way too much emotional weight behind anything. I'll go for either of our candidates at this point I just would really like it if we were able to get enough votes for one. If lynching at all is still even a thing we're doing, I guess.

i still feel better about a pharmacy lynch but like, if pala is right and not like, some kinda 3p killer or second scum or something trying to bait us into the losing move, at least a reyweld kill would lead us to the correct lynch if tomorrow comes

I am asking a mod question about what "conditional mylo" actually means, but I'm pretty sure it means "if you mislynch, you can lose".

May I remind everyone who doesn't read my posts that by not deciding between me and Pharmacy today, we leave the decision solely to Palamedes.

Reyweld, with my suggestion (assuming my assumptions re: my redirection being the fastest action) Wheat should survive no matter what as well and you should die - if this doesn't happen Pharmacy is almost definitely scum. That would turn two nightkills into this scenario:

1)
Pala
Wheat
Pharmacy

2)
Pala
Wheat
Pharmacy (-1 life)
Laser

Both are pretty safe, since if you flip town we know Pharmacy should be lynched, and if you're scum the game is probably over (and if not we lynch Laser if they're still alive).

Okay but this doesn't really make sense at all? Currently, everyone is torn between which of me and Pharmacy are scum. Pharmacy wouldn't kill me, the literal only other suspect. It makes much more sense to kill Wheat and gamble on your opinion (or that you're a third party).

Reyweld I'm saying that if Wheat magically died instead of you it wouldn't be up to opinion. Mechanically the move would be to lynch Pharmacy.

Like, the only scenario where the lynch isn't decided right off the bat is if four people are still alive. If Pharmacy is scum either you or Laser dying almost definitely confirms it, if she's town she isn't going to screw around and will kill you.

Cool. I love how we're giving scum control over all kills and Palamedes control over the game. ~3 hours remain in this day.

If she's town she probably doesn't have an extra kill!! Why would she lie so much if she's town

Vote: Day Extend because some people seem to think that certain things are a given no matter what

No day extend please I want this game to be over

We know Pharmacy got a *special item* from Mirdini, we also know that there must be two possible night kills (plus Schazer poison death) to bring us to potential mylo and not straight-up mylo. Pharmacy has since claimed that the item was a Bulletproof Vest (which is a real item). I think that Mirdini's Poison Blowdarts are what were passed.

Eh alright I forgot Pharmacy didn't claim to have the blowdarts, that was a mistake on my part. That means the mislynch and Pharmacy is scum and wins option is a lot less likely but also means No Lynch option is less solid I think.

Mirdini, having successfully named the bulletproofing item beforehand, would have lived last night if he still had it I think. So it makes sense that he would have sent it that way. It also makes sense that if he sent Pharmacy the blow darts expecting her to kill with them he would have explicitly said so, since we have no reason to believe that there is any other redirection left in the game that could have messed with that.

Reyweld what is wrong with giving me control over the game? You seem to trust me so I don't know what the big deal is?

@Palamedes: Yes, you have been my town read all along. You still are. But you are also the person who's alignment I'm least sure of. I know that Robust Laser and Schazer are town. Everyone knows that Wheat is town. But you could just as easily be a 3rd party survivalist entering a kingmaker position tomorrow. I'm not comfortable not knowing that, and giving you power over the entire game.

@Wheat: Mirdini specifically said that they gave Pharmacy an item. If Pharmacy denied that, it would be more attention drawing then the alternative.

I just dont know who would be scum with Pharmacy, and I'm starting to believe now that if Pharmacy doesn't have the darts (likely, for states reasons plus they weren't used last night too) is our likeliest situation.

Mirdini, having successfully named the bulletproofing item beforehand, would have lived last night if he still had it I think. So it makes sense that he would have sent it that way. It also makes sense that if he sent Pharmacy the blow darts expecting her to kill with them he would have explicitly said so, since we have no reason to believe that there is any other redirection left in the game that could have messed with that.

Mirdini died because of poisoning. You were likely last night's scum NK target who got redirected to n-o.

I believe Pharmacy received darts from Mirdini and is lying about it. Pharmacy having an additional kill tonight along with my dying of poisoning is a valid explanation for why today is one scum MYLO.

2 scum among 6 is not conditional mylo.

With redirections kicking around I think it is? At least as much as any sort of convoluted multi death scenario the more I think about it. I just dont understand why

A) Mirdini would be so coy about giving the darts to Pharmacy when we have no reason to believe there's another redirection role.

B) Pharmacy wouldn't have used them immediately.

If I got convincing enough explanations for that I could vote Pharmacy but otherwise I remain slightly more convinced that a Reyweld or no lynch is the better option.

2 scum vs 4 town is mylo regardless of redirection roles when there's a town player due to die tonight from poisoning.

Heck, even with redirection roles it's conditional lylo then, cuz all scum has to do is successfully second-guess all town redirecton roles.

Comedy option: lynch me

Day End

Votes:

Pharmacy: (3) (Reyweld, Robust Laser, Schazer)
Reyweld: (1) (Wheat)

Abstaining: (3) (Schazer, Palamedes, Pharmacy)

4 to lynch


No one was lynched

Deadline is in 48 hours or as soon as everyone locks in their night actions

Day begins with three years ends, 1996, year of red and blues release and the fearsome violence they inspired, 14700, the year when dogs were first domesticated but never cured of their desire to chase the mail, and 1829, the year of scotland yards founding

Schazer, Town Mason Vigilante, has died, each night she had to shoot someone, though would only kill if the gun was loaded.

Wheat, Town Lousy Mailman, has died, each night he could select a set of players and shuffle their inventories

Robust Laser, Town Group Investigator, has died, each night he could select a set of players (minimum 20% living) and discover if scum existed in it



Playerlist:

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Spoiler1. SchazerTown Mason Vigilante
2. Wheat Town Lousy Mailman
3. Akumu Mafia Item Crafter
4. SunspiderLyncher Petty Thief
5. Robust LaserTown Group Investigator
6. AgentBlue=>Reyweld
7. nercania-orccelgaReincarnatorMafiaItem Crafter
8. RobottobtTown Scientist
9. CSJ Mafia Godfather/Petty Thief
10. Mirdini Town Roleblocker
11. Coldblooded Mafia Roleblocker
12. SinkingSailor Town Roleblocker
13. awkwardcarapace Town Item Crafter
14. a52Town Watcher
15. GranolamanTown Item Crafter
16. seedy Town Miller Scientist
17. Palamedes
18. Pharmacy
19. Solaris Town Doctor/Mason
20. Cat Town Mailman

Livelist:

Reyweld
Palamedes
Pharmacy

With 3 alive it takes two to lynch. Lynch or Lose

I bussed me and Reyweld.

A spring knocked away a TP tube.

@Reyweld, what happened at your end.

I investigated you and got back "Rolecop with Toilet Paper Tube". Not that it really matters, my investigation wasn't going to be of much help regardless of target.

Back to Voting: Pharmacy because nothing has changed.

At least you can tell me if you're poisoned or not.

Vote: Reyweld.

I'm not sure why you want to know?

Vöates:

Pharmacy: (1) (reyweld)
Reyweld: (1) (Pharmacy)

Abstaining: (1) (Palamedes)

2 to Lynch, Deadline 2 PM July 31st

Bc I want to know if Pala is a poisoner or a serial killer before one of us gets the boot.