RE: Murder By The Book - Day 2: The Invisible Man
03-31-2014, 12:29 AM
Slorange is a disingenuous lynch option if you've played enough games to not get bogged down in mechanics-guessing. If we were to lynch Eberron today and one of the town leadertypes gets killed N2, we're going to have even more of an uphill battle trying to drag any of:
-Dini
-Crowslot
-Sotek
-AgentBlue
-Dalm
-Bigro (if he'll only respond reactively rather than adding a new perspective on proceedings)
Chwoka (who's no longer AFK and was active D1, but needs to contribute thoughts)
-Solaris
out and into some semblance of active contribution. I acknowledge the hypocrisy of declaring "let's lynch lurkers" and "no wait Granola needs to die" in the same breath, but I'm trying to encourage inactives to get into the game as a matter of principle, and I'm pretty sure Slorange is a sympathiser in that regard. I'd much rather lynch lurkers and make sure whichever townies don't get nightkilled have a lively and enjoyable D4-onwards.
Your behaviour's reached the point where it's throwing my naive ass off, though, so unless you want to help me lynch some lurkers you'd be a valid target.
You seem to acknowledge Slorange's claimed ability as a thing that is real-
Also backtracking a bit, because I multi-quoted you to figure out if I was just seeing things:
So, irrespective of whether Chwoka's alive or not: who to pursue if Chwoka flips town? What if they flip mafia?
Slorange isn't a fluff poster? He's about the exact opposite?
Akumu's defense here of you was kinda strange as well, I could see the two of you being scumbuddies.
What information, in your opinion, would an Eberron flip have provided about Akumu?
Again, your unwillingness to name names makes this really damning. It's impossible the entire scumteam was voting to No Lynch, so who on it was the likeliest candidate?
Ok, I'm tunnelling on you right now, so here's a question to try redeem yourself. You keep throwing suspicions on all sorts of people; who are your town reads?
Mine would be Slorange, mechanically speaking, and possibly Seedy (pending). Maybe Eberron.
I can attest to town!Slorange's habit of using his one-shots at the earliest convenience. I've only got Quarantine from personal memory in terms of his habits as scum, but he sat on that ability until he got a chance to use it? The "save for emergencies" angle works if he's mafia worried about a vig kill, but in that case isn't it advantageous to wait to see how many kills are flying around, before deciding one one N2-onward night or another that now your risk of being vig'd is higher?
Finally, concurring with Seedy's about your last post.
-Dini
-Crowslot
-Sotek
-AgentBlue
-Dalm
-Bigro (if he'll only respond reactively rather than adding a new perspective on proceedings)
Chwoka (who's no longer AFK and was active D1, but needs to contribute thoughts)
-Solaris
out and into some semblance of active contribution. I acknowledge the hypocrisy of declaring "let's lynch lurkers" and "no wait Granola needs to die" in the same breath, but I'm trying to encourage inactives to get into the game as a matter of principle, and I'm pretty sure Slorange is a sympathiser in that regard. I'd much rather lynch lurkers and make sure whichever townies don't get nightkilled have a lively and enjoyable D4-onwards.
Your behaviour's reached the point where it's throwing my naive ass off, though, so unless you want to help me lynch some lurkers you'd be a valid target.
You seem to acknowledge Slorange's claimed ability as a thing that is real-
Quote:I'll bet I nailed it on the head with your power being a scum one.-but are ignoring the circumstances which revealed that claim in the first place. Slorange was not a target for suspicion; he revealed this information in response to my Headology. I think if he were mafia, he would've just "psssshaw"ed at me and taken the secret of the redirect to his grave.
Also backtracking a bit, because I multi-quoted you to figure out if I was just seeing things:
(03-19-2014, 01:35 PM)Granolaman Wrote: »Garuru's posts are great, and also definitely super filler. I don't want to see him dead, but I'd rather not let scum accidentally slip through solely on entertainment value. If we have some sort of jailer or roleblocker role I wouldn't mind seeing him locked down for a few nights.
(03-21-2014, 12:47 AM)Granolaman Wrote: »I could go for a no lynch or a Chwoka Lynch at this point. Looking back, there's actually a decent set of relations data we can mine from Anona's flip.
So, irrespective of whether Chwoka's alive or not: who to pursue if Chwoka flips town? What if they flip mafia?
(03-22-2014, 01:29 AM)Granolaman Wrote: »*Sigh* you guys better promise to help me seriously analyze the fluff posters tomorrow.
Unvote. Vote: eberron
Slorange isn't a fluff poster? He's about the exact opposite?
(03-27-2014, 10:49 PM)Akumu Wrote: »Sotek, could you explain your convictions a bit more? You voted for Granola after he replied to me with something that, while technically true, missed the point of my argument. Is that sufficient to say that he is scum? Especially that we are now in a situation, with an even number of players, where we've lost the low-information lynch advantage.
Akumu's defense here of you was kinda strange as well, I could see the two of you being scumbuddies.
(03-27-2014, 11:37 PM)Granolaman Wrote: »@Schazer: [...] I jumped onto the wagon because I wanted more information on Akumu, and there wasn't enough time left in the day to move the lynch over.
What information, in your opinion, would an Eberron flip have provided about Akumu?
(03-28-2014, 01:07 AM)Granolaman Wrote: »Anyways I agree that this looks like a politeness killing which implicates a lot of the early people on the "no lynch" wagon.
Again, your unwillingness to name names makes this really damning. It's impossible the entire scumteam was voting to No Lynch, so who on it was the likeliest candidate?
(03-29-2014, 04:24 PM)Granolaman Wrote: »I'm gonna hop back over to Vote: eberron for now just because dayum he's a talking point. If he's town, Schazer and Akumu look worse. If he's scum I could see Solaris being his scummate. Last time I saw them they were idly condemning everyone on the eberron wagon. You still think we're all terrible Sol?
Ok, I'm tunnelling on you right now, so here's a question to try redeem yourself. You keep throwing suspicions on all sorts of people; who are your town reads?
Mine would be Slorange, mechanically speaking, and possibly Seedy (pending). Maybe Eberron.
Quote:I keep getting weird vibes about Slorange and his ability. Targeting cyber checks out, and if it was just a straight janitor kill Slorange couldn't've known how many other potential kills there'd be tonight. (my money's on 2.5 highest btw: 1 scum, 1 cautious vig, maybe 1 partial-SK) Still, that seems like a "use when threatened" kind of ability, not a "use immediately" one. I want to say that it's actually more likely a scum power.
But then there's Truegreen.
I don't even know anymore. Most likely lying-style scenario is that both Slorange and Green are scum with no day-chat. I'll probably get around to lynching one/both of you after the eberron debate and also bothering Chwoka when he gets back from vacation.
I can attest to town!Slorange's habit of using his one-shots at the earliest convenience. I've only got Quarantine from personal memory in terms of his habits as scum, but he sat on that ability until he got a chance to use it? The "save for emergencies" angle works if he's mafia worried about a vig kill, but in that case isn't it advantageous to wait to see how many kills are flying around, before deciding one one N2-onward night or another that now your risk of being vig'd is higher?
Finally, concurring with Seedy's about your last post.
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woke up in the noon smelling doom and death | out the house, great outdoors
staying warm in arctic blizzard | that's my battle 'til I get inanimate | still up in the same clothes living like a gameshow
clouds is shaky love | broke as hell but i got a bunch of ringtones
eyes blood red bruise aubergine | Sue took something now Sue doesn't sleep | saint average, day in the life of
woke up in the noon smelling doom and death | out the house, great outdoors
staying warm in arctic blizzard | that's my battle 'til I get inanimate | still up in the same clothes living like a gameshow