The Wander Island Incident - Night Four - Five For One [13/21]

So my post where I claimed to have no death role was right after I woke up and saw like two pages ("oh god") debating over whether I had such a power or not and what it all meant, so I never really looked deep into how this started in the first place. In this post I will,

Hey nerds I just had an important setup realization that makes AC pretty super likely town based on behavior

Blazer's claimed DoB. I have a role that activates on death. AC is quite clearly smug because dying isn't actually a problem for them

Hope this helps.

Okay, initially I found this conclusion kind of weird, that aC might have an on-death role because of how they're playing, and therefore they're town - it's very speculative reasoning but a very hard conclusion. It's also inadvertently/subtly saying "hey I'm town too since I've got a on-death role", which I'm not toooooo happy about? But then Acio makes this good point:

I asked several times for Seedy to offer an example of what exactly you could give scum that would make an on death role worthwhile and she did not answer that question, falling back to reasons as to why they could possibly exist.

To which I say, yeah, the argument makes sense. Unless the 'Dini put in some, like, HARDCORE SCUMROLES to swing things in the maf's direction, I don't see them existing because it essentially punishes the town for lynching right by having one more of their members being taken out by the flipped scum

I’m definitely not going to think ac is town on the presumption that they have a death power and the further presumption that death power = town. not to be meta, but if past dini games are anything to go on then providing fakeclaims isn’t the only thing blurring the lines between scum roles and town roles. iirc quarantine scum team had a quack doctor, I’d hardly call a death power the most useless scum role
it is weird that you are defending the both of them using (imo fairly weak) role justification like that

Bringing up, like, an entirely different game (also run by dini), and then doing that AGAIN later, is not the strongest reasoning and makes me ':/

given that I now realize acio has a neutral/slightly positive read on ac before he flipped to big town on them and that combined with a HEAVY scum read on me is probably enough the explain this whole....thing...that I initially found wildly illogical...so this really does feel like it has been a huge distraction and waste of time... orz
at least if ac had a death role we’d be able to put theories into practice

this is all your fault, ac *shakes fist*

I... don't blame you as this quite literally may be true
Also I'm only glad the Acio v seedy thing calmed down, I suspect that after their argument I feel more confident in reading Acio as town, and I'm viewing seedy in a (sliiiightly) more townish light as well yay!!

Although, part of the reason the argument calmed down is because Granolaman was able to mediate between the two and clearly explain stuff, which strikes me as a little... odd, I guess? This might be because of my predisposed read against Granola, but this kind of makes me think he didn't want aci/seedy to escalate further and distract from an easy assured softlynch. This also makes me think that Granola was possibly trying to diffuse the sitch because one of the two people was a fellow scum (seedy, maybe? He was defending them more). But then again, that last read totally conflicts with what I said earlier about how both arguers seem more towny, so... disregard.

aC/BC

At first I just laughed at this little bit then realised: if seedy still had their original username from mspaf we'd have, as a follow-up:

Aci/cD

This also works with their current username too (Aciϟseedy)

Given there's only about 36 hours left in day, I don't expect anything major changing in terms of the Votals (and, given that 80% of today's discussion revolved around aCϟBC it wouldn't be very optimal if at least one of us didn't flip at the end [and a lot of people have expressed interested in seeing my flip]) so I've pretty much accepted this course of action. I won't say anything more about my role other than what I've already said, though