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		07-15-2018, 12:47 AM 
	 
	
		and on day 5 no-one has claimed to have lost items that I can tell. So I don't think there's a scum mailperson, actually? 
 
There's still the case of Seedy's item mysteriously vanishing but that could very well be thievery at work.
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-15-2018, 12:53 AM 
	 
	
		So yeah unless you have info that cat was blocked/bomb'd that I/the thread at large don't, I think the item losses reported on D4 can be accounted for w/ existing roles? Which means the scum thief/scum item jerk/scum redirector theory's still plausible
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-15-2018, 01:20 AM 
	 
	
		Okay yeah, forgot the taffy also blocked but looking it up now and yeah, whoof. 
 
In any case Wheat if you really gotta desperado on me tomorrow (assuming the worst case is real and Sunspider flips 3P, if Sunspider flips mafia I would assume I am maybe somewhat back in the mighty elder's favor at least to the point of not getting murdered in broad daylight?) and make things absurdly more difficult for town can you at least give me a couple hours to post before you do it? 
 
Would like to at least get my thoughts down for folks in the thread (depending on Sunspider's flip/hopefully Akumu's flip) n' all, plus maybe there'll be additional evidence or something that might change the state of play :P
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-15-2018, 01:40 AM 
	 
	
		oh I’m pretty sure the Mason Jars I had gotten the night before left cuz of a spring I was just being a cagey bastard 
I was notified when a spring bounced away a tp tube but I wasn’t notified of anything when the jars left but like I said I’m PRETTY sure it was a spring 
 
(for the record, like I said the things never activated, nor did the mods ever explain to me when they WOULD activate. I suspect this was due to there being an odd number of them (or even only one), which precluded any chatting)) 
 
wheat I would appreciate you NOT desperado-ing a person who not only checked as “aligned” with solaris but also “different” with akumu  
again unless you’re willing to commit to “two godfathers” theory
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-15-2018, 02:16 AM 
	 
	
		I thought the n1 nonsense involved a separate driver other than pharmacy (making my check solid) or do we still not understand what happened that night cuz I’ve given up trying  
but it’s cool how you admit that you don’t really care either way and will kill mirdini regardless
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-15-2018, 02:26 AM 
	 
	
		 (07-15-2018, 02:16 AM)seedy Wrote: »I thought the n1 nonsense involved a separate driver other than pharmacy (making my check solid) or do we still not understand what happened that night cuz I’ve given up trying  
but it’s cool how you admit that you don’t really care either way and will kill mirdini regardless  
nah that was the n2 nonsense during which I was blocking you, the n1 check could conceivably have been messed with by a scum driver (at the very least, I don't think we had a bead on what they were up to that night - Wheat was confused re: granola stuff for a bit but Cat heavily implied that was her doing).
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-15-2018, 03:26 AM 
	 
	
		welp 4 minutes until I find out if I'm super doomed (and by extension, if town is super doomed) tomorrow 
 
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		07-15-2018, 03:35 AM 
	 
	
		woop woop that's the deadline, hold for whatever's happening now
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-15-2018, 03:51 AM 
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		Final Votes: 
 
Nercania: (1) (Schazer) 
Akumu: (2) (Palamedes, Wheat) 
Pharmacy: (2) (Sunspider, Robust Laser) 
Reyweld: (1) (Akumu) 
Sunspider: (4) (Reyweld, Seedy, Pharmacy, Mirdini) 
 
 
Abstaining: (1) (nercania-orccelga) 
 
 
Day ends and a decision is reached, Columbus' spree of theft and wanton murder comes to a close as 1492 meets its end 
 
Sunspider, Petty Thief Lyncher has died, each night they could check another player's inventory and steal from it and would have won if they successfully lynched their target 
 
 
 
Playerlist: 
 
			Show Content 
			Spoiler1. Schazer 
2. Wheat 
3. Akumu 
4. SunspiderLyncher Petty Thief 
5. Robust Laser 
6. AgentBlue=>Reyweld 
7. nercania-orccelga 
8. RobottobtTown Scientist 
9. CSJ Mafia Godfather/Petty Thief 
10. Mirdini 
11. Coldblooded Mafia Roleblocker 
12. SinkingSailor Town Roleblocker 
13. awkwardcarapace Town Item Crafter  
14. a52Town Watcher 
15. GranolamanTown Item Crafter 
16. seedy 
17. Palamedes 
18. Pharmacy 
19. Solaris Town Doctor/Mason 
20. Cat Town Mailman 
		 
 
 
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		07-17-2018, 03:54 AM 
	 
	
		Day rises and two more years pass, 2007 year of a new iphone and other inspiring gadgets and 1932, year of the discovery of nuclear energy and the fear it bought 
 
Akumu, Mafia Item Crafter has died. Each night he could choose to create items and give them randomly to a selection of players 
 
Seedy, Town Miller Scientist has died, she could select two players and discover if they shared alignment. 
 
Playerlist: 
 
			Show Content 
			Spoiler1. Schazer 
2. Wheat 
3. Akumu Mafia Item Crafter 
4. SunspiderLyncher Petty Thief 
5. Robust Laser 
6. AgentBlue=>Reyweld 
7. nercania-orccelga 
8. RobottobtTown Scientist 
9. CSJ Mafia Godfather/Petty Thief 
10. Mirdini 
11. Coldblooded Mafia Roleblocker 
12. SinkingSailor Town Roleblocker 
13. awkwardcarapace Town Item Crafter  
14. a52Town Watcher 
15. GranolamanTown Item Crafter 
16. seedy Town Miller Scientist 
17. Palamedes 
18. Pharmacy 
19. Solaris Town Doctor/Mason 
20. Cat Town Mailman 
		 
 
 
Livelist: 
 
Schazer 
Wheat 
Robust Laser 
Reyweld 
Nercania-Orccelga 
Mirdini 
Palamedes 
Pharmacy 
 
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		07-17-2018, 04:25 AM 
	 
	
		Hi guys! I'm poisoned! Again!
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 04:26 AM 
	 
	
		I shot Akumu (no bullets) last night!
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 05:20 AM 
	 
	
		Goddamn it.
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 07:41 AM 
	 
	
		Are we sure wheat is town because fuck that
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 07:43 AM 
	 
	
		I need to reread stuff but my current gut instinct is Pharms as maf. And.... n-o I suppose
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 07:49 AM 
	 
	
		Not ruling out I hit two maf in one invest that night either but I think it'll be hard to verify that. 
(If it were the case I'd peg Pharms and Reyweld as maf but I don't have super strong feelings on Reyweld atm)
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 08:00 AM 
	 
	
		So Pharms wanna tell us what your (apparently failed, if you really are town) night action is? 
 
Was fairly sure Pharms was town before this daystart bc who makes a lyncher for mafia but if Sunspider was really a 'roll a random target at gamestart' lyncher in the Old Style it's theoretically possible and Seedy being dead is... not great for my belief in town!pharms 
 
In any case this makes me trust Laser a bunch more, bc hey Akumu was the item crafter. 
 
So uh, Palamedes, mind claiming at this point, maybe before Wheat blows themselves up on someone, in case whatever info you have helps them re: targeting? (I'm assuming that maybe with Akumu flipping scum item crafter I'm not first on their murder list anymore, if I am rip town winning this game) 
 
PS I got two (two!) Turkish Delights and a bone in the night. Fun.
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 08:11 AM 
	 
	
		(also with Seedy flipping town meaning both her check claims are slightly more reliable (barring weird redirection stuff, but judging from how many people were around n1, it's more likely than not her check was not messed with?) + that time she confirmed me non-item roleblocking her should hopefully finally convince people I'm telling the truth about my role?
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 08:17 AM 
	 
	
		Also the fact that it's not LYLO means we're definitely dealing with 2 (or less) mafia remaining. 
 
NGL while in most games it would be not be a mathematically pro-town move, with all the poison we've got ticking down (2?/6? remaining townies) Wheat desperado-ing on a mafia member might actually be The Right Move. If they pick someone who's actually scum and we lynch the remaining mafia today we'd win outright. 
 
Of course, if wheat hits a townie (and is town, which I'm still 100% certain of bc the night-action case for it was/is bulletproof) we're immediately at LYLO, lol
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 08:18 AM 
	 
	
		If Pharms was 3p before this day then it'd be mostly certain Reyweld as maf but I'm not totally convinced atm?
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 08:22 AM 
	 
	
		Pharms 3p ("before this day"?) makes... very little sense to me, where are you getting that from
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 08:25 AM 
	 
	
		Can someone not on mobile give me a list of what checks/mechanical info we're riding on?
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 08:34 AM 
	 
	
		I thought that's what you just said. 
 
 
...Oh I reread and misunderstood the meaning. And was totally willing to take it as I thought it was for some reason. Sorry!
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 08:37 AM 
	 
	
		the air conditioner is broken at work so like, anything i say within the next 4.5 hours could be influenced by dying of heat.
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		07-17-2018, 09:01 AM 
	 
	
		 (07-17-2018, 08:25 AM)Schazer Wrote: »Can someone not on mobile give me a list of what checks/mechanical info we're riding on?  
Wheat's town due to the Night 2 confluence of a52 watching + robottobt's one claimed actual check. 
 
Palamedes claimed a item-based day guilty check on Coldblooded on d2, but otherwise hasn't claimed. 
 
I have claimed town role-based roleblocker (a la SinkingSailor/Coldblooded), which was corroborated by Seedy. 
 
Robottobt's (dead scientist) checks: 
 
n1 - compared two years??? 
n2 - Wheat and CSJ are aligned, because we have outside confirmation CSJ was bussed with a52 (or at the very least all actions targeting CSJ were redirected TO a52) this means Wheat and a52 are aligned aka Wheat is town. 
 
Seedy's (dead scientist) checks:  
 
n1 - Mirdini and Solaris - Aligned.  
n2 - Akumu and Sunspider--blocked by Mirdini 
n3 - Sunspider and awkwardcarapace - Different 
n4 - Akumu and Reyweld - Different. Pharmacy claims to have swapped Reyweld with Mirdini. 
 
Reyweld's (claimed rolecop who gets to also see an item) checks: 
 
N1 - Solaris, who is a Doctor, possessed the Ma_____ M_____ (Schazer didn’t say it but I don’t know why) 
N2 - Schazer, who is a Vigilante and possessed an Apple 
N3 - Seedy, who is a Vigilante and possessed a Fedora 
N4 - Sunspider, who is a Petty Thief and possesses an Orange 
 
Pharmacy's (claimed) Busdrivings (so far) [n1/n2/n3 checks all corroborated by other players): 
 
n1: wheat and reyweld 
n2: csj and a52 (a52 didn't see this, but this may be bc a52 himself was bussed?) 
n3: seedy and schazer (confirmed by Reyweld seeing seedy as vig?) 
n4: mirdini and reyweld (with Reyweld swapped with Akumu) 
 
a52's (dead watcher) claimed checks: 
 
n1 - Cat, Pharmacy, and Wheat all visited Wheat 
n2 - a52, Wheat, Nercania-Orccelga, awkwardCarapace, Palamedes and robottobt all visited CSJ(?) and were bussed to a52. 
n3 - Mirdini, Granolaman, Palamedes and Nercania-Orccelga all visited robottobt. 
 
awkwardCarapace claims not to have targeted either a52 OR CSJ on n2, which is why we have been thinking there is an additional redirection ability other than Pharmacy's. 
 
Robust Laser's (claimed shotgun mafia cop) claimed checks: 
 
n1 & n2 - Included seedy, non-informative guilties 
n3 - One out of Reyweld, Pharmacy and Mirdini are mafia. 
n4+ - bomb'd 
 
Mirdini's claimed roleblockings: 
 
n1 - Blocked Palamedes. Palamedes says he wasn't blocked, but targets are not informed that they are blocked except by an absence of information/action re: night-actions (/item actions). Most likely Mirdini was blocked by Coldblooded or SinkingSailor, as roleblocking doesn't give any feedback and I had no items to use n1/d2. 
n2 - Blocked Seedy. 
n3 - Blocked robottobt 
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