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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
08-30-2016, 05:15 AM
(08-30-2016, 02:38 AM)martialAcademic Wrote: »>Derrick: You and Lucia can use your gloves to make a hole and then flip Miander into it. Then you could take a safe distance and start using ranged attacks without fear of reprisal. If that doesn't work stun Miander and go for the eyes and other disabling spots. Also, you should say hi to Ahn and her new associate once you have a moment. It pays to be polite.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
08-30-2016, 05:28 AM
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So, I'm going to recap my deafening strategy for Daesdayne here, so people can read it and improve on it, without it being as messy as the previous thread.
So, Daesdayne has super hearing, right? That means that she's easier to deafen than people. If we can get a really loud noise in her cave, it might deafen her forever. A deaf and blind giant monster is a lot easy to deal with than if she still could hear. We could walk in, steal her soul horde, and walk out. Perhaps we could even take her out, but that might be pushing it.
So, how this would work. A human experiences hearing damage at about 120 db. Permanent deafness occurs at around 190 db. A grenade is about 195 db, point blank. However, due to Daesdayne's super hearing, this should be a much lower number. To be on the safe side though, I still recommend something around 190-200 db.
The main problem is that this is a dream world. However unlikely, Daesdayne could have a deus ex power that protects her ears or something. Because of this, I recommend a time reversing item. Just in case.
Also, please comment improvements! I want this to be the best possible plan.
(I feel so so tired thinking this all out hope you guys all like it I mean I did actual research for this and now I'm rambling)
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
08-30-2016, 06:15 AM
(08-30-2016, 05:28 AM)Username Wrote: »So, I'm going to recap my deafening strategy for Daesdayne here, so people can read it and improve on it, without it being as messy as the previous thread.
So, Daesdayne has super hearing, right? That means that she's easier to deafen than people. If we can get a really loud noise in her cave, it might deafen her forever. A deaf and blind giant monster is a lot easy to deal with than if she still could hear. We could walk in, steal her soul horde, and walk out. Perhaps we could even take her out, but that might be pushing it.
So, how this would work. A human experiences hearing damage at about 120 db. Permanent deafness occurs at around 190 db. A grenade is about 195 db, point blank. However, due to Daesdayne's super hearing, this should be a much lower number. To be on the safe side though, I still recommend something around 190-200 db.
The main problem is that this is a dream world. However unlikely, Daesdayne could have a deus ex power that protects her ears or something. Because of this, I recommend a time reversing item. Just in case.
Also, please comment improvements! I want this to be the best possible plan.
(I feel so so tired thinking this all out hope you guys all like it I mean I did actual research for this and now I'm rambling)
It's a sound strategy, but we don't know HOW super Daesdyne's hearing is.
If it's... Let's say x4 a normal Human's hearing, we may just be able to lob a nade inside and render her basically useless, although, as you said, Daesdyne may have some Deus-Ex Machina for that exact situation, so bringing time reversal and fear reduction may help a great deal.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
08-30-2016, 06:49 AM
(08-30-2016, 05:28 AM)Username Wrote: »We could walk in, steal her soul horde, and walk out. Perhaps we could even take her out, but that might be pushing it.
Daesdyne's soul horde is inside her belly, so for that we'd have to kill her.
Making Daesdyne deaf seems like a sound strategy, if only Lexii and Hermes were here.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
08-30-2016, 04:13 PM
We DO have the Scotsman's Wail, which is a deafening sonic weapon.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-01-2016, 01:26 AM
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(08-30-2016, 02:38 AM)martialAcademic Wrote: »>Derrick: You and Lucia can use your gloves to make a hole and then flip Miander into it. Then you could take a safe distance and start using ranged attacks without fear of reprisal. If that doesn't work stun Miander and go for the eyes and other disabling spots. Also, you should say hi to Ahn and her new associate once you have a moment. It pays to be polite.
The hole idea, the disabling spots idea, and saying hi I second. But those eyes do not look like weak spots. The entire face is armor; all Miander has to do is close its eyes. Though perhaps lightning could be fast enough. Anyway, I'd say all five extremities count as weak spots we can attempt to cripple or better yet sever. The long balance-tail is especially attractive (but remember it is also a weapon).
I wonder if the water can be used for ice. Certainly steam or boiling water in combination with fire, but could the fire magic be used to extract the heat from the water (assuming the water magic can't do ice by itself)?
...Wait. This guy's shields/weapons are made of stone. He is partially encrusted with stone. Between wind, water, and earth magic...
>Erode
Oh, better idea. The eyes may be well defended, but that doesn't mean we can't cover them with something opaque. I'm thinking ice, earth, fire, or (if we can swing it) lava to the face mask.
Also, Miander is obviously shadow and earth/rock/stone/something types.
>Emily: Purify Derrick and Lucia's gloves and weapons.
Ugh. Looks like Miander can bang his arm slabs and tail hammer together. Also he has lights along the side of his tail; not sure what that means. Where do we want the reapers?
Don't forget Ira.
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"Miander: Your death will give life. It is a fair trade."
Did we all somehow miss that this is anything but a fair trade? One side loses something for no gain and the other side gains something for no loss.
>Emily or one of the reapers: Point out that death for life is a one-way exchange and therefore not a trade, let alone a fair trade as Miander claimed.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-01-2016, 05:24 PM
(09-01-2016, 01:26 AM)ForestGardener Wrote: »The hole idea, the disabling spots idea, and saying hi I second. But those eyes do not look like weak spots. The entire face is armor; all Miander has to do is close its eyes. Though perhaps lightning could be fast enough. Anyway, I'd say all five extremities count as weak spots we can attempt to cripple or better yet sever. The long balance-tail is especially attractive (but remember it is also a weapon).
I wonder if the water can be used for ice. Certainly steam or boiling water in combination with fire, but could the fire magic be used to extract the heat from the water (assuming the water magic can't do ice by itself)?
...Wait. This guy's shields/weapons are made of stone. He is partially encrusted with stone. Between wind, water, and earth magic...
>Erode
Oh, better idea. The eyes may be well defended, but that doesn't mean we can't cover them with something opaque. I'm thinking ice, earth, fire, or (if we can swing it) lava to the face mask.
Also, Miander is obviously shadow and earth/rock/stone/something types.
>Emily: Purify Derrick and Lucia's gloves and weapons.
Ugh. Looks like Miander can bang his arm slabs and tail hammer together. Also he has lights along the side of his tail; not sure what that means. Where do we want the reapers?
Don't forget Ira.
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"Miander: Your death will give life. It is a fair trade."
Did we all somehow miss that this is anything but a fair trade? One side loses something for no gain and the other side gains something for no loss.
>Emily or one of the reapers: Point out that death for life is a one-way exchange and therefore not a trade, let alone a fair trade as Miander claimed.
Seconding and adding...
>Emily: Keep trying to shake Miander's beliefs during the fight.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-02-2016, 11:11 PM
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(09-01-2016, 01:26 AM)ForestGardener Wrote: » (08-30-2016, 02:38 AM)martialAcademic Wrote: »>Derrick: You and Lucia can use your gloves to make a hole and then flip Miander into it. Then you could take a safe distance and start using ranged attacks without fear of reprisal. If that doesn't work stun Miander and go for the eyes and other disabling spots. Also, you should say hi to Ahn and her new associate once you have a moment. It pays to be polite.
The hole idea, the disabling spots idea, and saying hi I second. But those eyes do not look like weak spots. The entire face is armor; all Miander has to do is close its eyes. Though perhaps lightning could be fast enough. Anyway, I'd say all five extremities count as weak spots we can attempt to cripple or better yet sever. The long balance-tail is especially attractive (but remember it is also a weapon).
I wonder if the water can be used for ice. Certainly steam or boiling water in combination with fire, but could the fire magic be used to extract the heat from the water (assuming the water magic can't do ice by itself)?
...Wait. This guy's shields/weapons are made of stone. He is partially encrusted with stone. Between wind, water, and earth magic...
>Erode
Oh, better idea. The eyes may be well defended, but that doesn't mean we can't cover them with something opaque. I'm thinking ice, earth, fire, or (if we can swing it) lava to the face mask.
Also, Miander is obviously shadow and earth/rock/stone/something types.
>Emily: Purify Derrick and Lucia's gloves and weapons.
Ugh. Looks like Miander can bang his arm slabs and tail hammer together. Also he has lights along the side of his tail; not sure what that means. Where do we want the reapers?
Don't forget Ira.
Edit:
"Miander: Your death will give life. It is a fair trade."
Did we all somehow miss that this is anything but a fair trade? One side loses something for no gain and the other side gains something for no loss.
>Emily or one of the reapers: Point out that death for life is a one-way exchange and therefore not a trade, let alone a fair trade as Miander claimed.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-03-2016, 04:40 AM
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-03-2016, 04:47 AM
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So there goes most of Lucia's powers. We should get out of melee range and kite this guy, because if we try to take him in a straight close up fight people are going to die.
> Derrick and Lucia: Spam Miander with magic and get out of his attack range.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-03-2016, 05:04 AM
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>Reapers: Heal Derrick and Lucia
>Lucia: soak Miander with water, as big a torrent as you can
>Derrick: get angry, no one harms your friends and gets away with it unscathed, electricity, aim it at miander's legs, try and paralyze him
>Everyone: with miander paralyzed, you should be able to attack from a distance while he's unable to reach you
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-03-2016, 08:48 AM
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...Alright, so after this, we should get Lucia to go down however many dream levels are needed to get Ira back.
EDIT: Wait, don't we need Ira to go to another dream level in the first place? Urgh, I don't know, just do something. Maybe Emily could do it like she did with Kalem?
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-03-2016, 12:13 PM
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>Derrick: Douse him some boiling water. Try to hit him from above.
>Any reaper: Heal derrick
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-03-2016, 04:28 PM
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>Derrick: try to use rock powers to grab the monster's tail.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-03-2016, 06:02 PM
noo, not Ira T-T)
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-03-2016, 06:21 PM
We should probably stop breaking up commands. It doesn't tend to go well.
>Derrick: Ask the reapers to heal you and Lucia, try and stop Miander's movements by putting Miander into a hole, and for gods sake BACK UP. You have ranged attacks while your opponent does not, take yourself out of Miander effective range. Aside from that, spread out and flank Miander so you can't all be attacked at once and so that you can attack from multiple directions at once preventing all of your attacks from being blocked. If anybody can't take a hit have them stay out of reach of Miander's attacks.
There wasn't any reason for Ira to die there. At all. I don't know how or why they interpreted "keep your distance" as "hit miander with a melee attack", but oh well. We have to spell it out for them.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-04-2016, 01:57 AM
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Derrick: Ask the reapers to heal you and Lucia, try and stop Miander's movements by putting Miander into a hole, and for gods sake BACK UP. You have ranged attacks while your opponent does not, take yourself out of Miander effective range. Aside from that, spread out and flank Miander so you can't all be attacked at once and so that you can attack from multiple directions at once preventing all of your attacks from being blocked. If anybody can't take a hit have them stay out of reach of Miander's attacks
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Reggie: Let's see who's causing a ruckus.
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Reggie: Hmm. Miander level 30...
Reggie: Has lots of Vitality, and strength.
Reggie: A tough one.
Lucia: He's not that tough.
Miander: You have me outnumbered, for sure.
Miander: However, my defence is unmatched.
Derrick: How about this?
You soak Miander for 50 damage!
Itamie double taps Miander for collectively 105 damage!
Ghen blasts Miander for 120 damage! Miander only received 20...
Lucia casts lightning down on Miander for 135 damage! Miander only received 35...
Piper flies with a furious spin-tackle for... 0 damage!
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Miander: Ugh...
Emily: We're really more than you can handle, you know.
Emily: I want to help you.
Miander: I don't need your help...
Emily: Please..! Aren't you tired of fighting for your life?
Emily: I have power. I can help you.
Miander: ....
Emily: Well?
Miander: .... I've lost faith in a better world a long time ago.
Emily: ......
1. Keep trying to convince Miander.
2. Finish him off.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-04-2016, 02:07 AM
> Emily: point out that if he already thinks there is nothing else worse than this, isn't a better option worth giving it a chance? He has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-04-2016, 02:14 AM
>1, but keep on the lookout for a sudden attack.
>Emily: You've shown that you are more than can be handled. You've proven that Miander's life is already at your mercy, and you are currently offering to give it to him. You can use that in your conversation. If you think it's a good idea, try listening to Miander and helping overcame some of his/her fears and worries. I'd suggest either offering Miander either exorcism, or the chance to help make Lomam a better place, depending on what you think. Aside from that, if Miander does not wish to cooperate your hands are tied up here.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-04-2016, 03:50 AM
(09-04-2016, 02:07 AM)Panur Wrote: »> Emily: point out that if he already thinks there is nothing else worse than this, isn't a better option worth giving it a chance? He has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-04-2016, 02:46 PM
(09-04-2016, 03:50 AM)TerraTorment Wrote: » (09-04-2016, 02:07 AM)Panur Wrote: »> Emily: point out that if he already thinks there is nothing else worse than this, isn't a better option worth giving it a chance? He has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-04-2016, 08:24 PM
(09-04-2016, 02:07 AM)Panur Wrote: »> Emily: point out that if he already thinks there is nothing else worse than this, isn't a better option worth giving it a chance? He has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-05-2016, 04:00 AM
(09-04-2016, 08:24 PM)Username Wrote: » (09-04-2016, 02:07 AM)Panur Wrote: »> Emily: point out that if he already thinks there is nothing else worse than this, isn't a better option worth giving it a chance? He has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-05-2016, 11:29 PM
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Emily: point out that if he already thinks there is nothing else worse than this, isn't a better option worth giving it a chance? He has nothing to lose and everything to gain
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Emily: If you think that this is as bad as it gets, why not see things another way?
Miander: ....
Emily: This realm isn't nearly as bad as you think, sometimes it can be quite peaceful.
Miander: .....
Emily: Not to mention Death Valley is only a small part of this realm! There is more to this place than you know.
Emily: I don't think continuing this fight makes any sense.
Emily: What do you think?
Miander: Heh...
Miander: I've been here since I entered this strange land, and I've yet to come across anyone quite like you.
Miander: I don't really care for this place to be honest.
Miander: And I've grown tired of this strange form I've taken.
Emily: ...!
Emily: Here, how about I give you a hand?
Emily: The power I talked about was the ability to lead those who want to leave, out of this realm.
Emily: From there you are free to become whatever you desire.
Emily: It's painless, and only works with your express permission.
Miander: ... it sounds better than this.
Miander: I accept.
Emily: Really?
Miander: Yes.
Emily: Okay... Here goes...
You rest your hand on Miander, you feel as though all the darkness that has covered him slowly begin to melt away.
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Miander: How curious....
Miander: This feeling is the highlight of my time here....
Miander: I thank you, child...
Miander: May you share this gift with all who are willing...
Emily: It's my pleasure!
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
09-05-2016, 11:32 PM
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give it to the ferocious beast
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