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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 04:14 AM
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Emily: Say something to confirm your realness. Something only someone outside the construct would know
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Emily: Err... Uhh..
Emily: Well, If you don't think I'm real, I remember you.
Daydream: Huh?
Emily: Why you ended up here. Why we ended up here.
Emily: You're perpetually in a state of pain. But you've gotten very good at masking it.
Daydream: You don't know shit.
Emily: Oh?
Emily: I know that you're lovesick.
Daydream: .......
Emily: It's okay, I was too, at a time.
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Daydream: ....Here. Let's have a little chat.
Daydream: You seem to know enough to have a meaningful conversation. Take a seat.
Emily: W-where?
Daydream: Oh.
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Daydream: Take a seat beside the Aliens.
Emily: Okay...
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Emily: What would you like to talk about?
Daydream: ......
Daydream: I have a confession. It's... dark.
Daydream: It's sad.
Daydream: It's... Just indescribable.
Emily: You can say it, speak your mind.
Daydream:... I'm in love with Derrick.
Emily: ...!
Emily: But he's your brother!
Daydream: I know... It's sick.
Daydream: It's disgusting. Unforgivable.
Daydream: I have had such a difficult time suppressing these feelings.
Emily: Well, you need some way to cope with it.
Emily: You can't keep things like this bottled up.
Emily: It's good you're comfortable telling someone this.
Daydream: I'm not done.
Emily: ....?
Daydream: The sick part isn't that I'm in love with Derrick.
Daydream: The sick part is... I did something bad to him.
Emily: What?
Daydream: .....
Emily: What did you do?
Daydream: I... I...
Daydream: I took his virginity.
Emily: W...Wha...?
Emily: WHAT?
Daydream: ....... It's so fucked up.... I know.
Emily: When?? How??
Daydream: It was a long time ago for me.
Daydream: But just now for Alice.
Emily: Alice..? What?
Daydream: Oh, I'm Daydream. Alice is the girl you just met.
Daydream: Ugh... I'm so ashamed of myself.
Emily: .... Keep talking.
Daydream: Well at the time, I knew how Derrick felt about Lucia.
Daydream: He would never be with me.
Daydream: I loved him more than living.
Daydream: I was possessive. I was controlling.
Daydream: I was selfish.
Daydream: I was the worst kind of person.
Daydream: I really hate Alice. But she's necessary to save my brother.
Daydream: On our first "date". We had a great time. We went to all sorts of clothing stores, food stores, movies, parks, you name it.
Daydream: It got pretty late, so I managed to score some alcohol from a place. Derrick didn't want any, but I talked him into it.
Daydream: We drank a whole bottle between the two of us.
Daydream: But I use "we" very sparingly.
Daydream: I pretended to drink, while Derrick drank pretty much all of it.
Emily: ......
Daydream: When we got home... He could barely stand. I took him to my room.
Emily: ...........
Daydream: I kept the lights off, and asked him if... He'd like me to take care of him.
Daydream: And he said yes.
Daydream: So I....
Daydream: Well. You get the picture...
Emily: How could you do something like that??
Daydream: I said it was fucked, didn't I?!
Daydream: I wanted him so badly, I would die if anyone got his first.
Daydream: I planned that night hundreds of times in my head.
Daydream: He was my first as well.
Emily: This is...
Daydream: I felt I HAD to!
Emily: You raped him?!
Emily: That's a crime! You're a criminal!
Daydream: ...!!!
Daydream: FUCK, I KNOW.
Daydream: I didn't expect you to understand.
Emily: Well, did you completely destroy him??
Daydream: No, he was shit-faced. He did not remember anything.
Daydream: After I finished, I cleaned him up and carried him to his bedroom.
Daydream: He'll never know.
Daydream: Because you won't tell him, and neither will I.
Emily: What if I did?
Daydream: He'd never believe you. Try not to burn any bridges here.
Daydream: I trust you very little right now. Don't make it non existent.
Emily: .... So, you raped him, and he doesn't remember. And I was brought here to make you feel better?
Daydream: I dunno why you're here. But I do feel better.
Emily: .... Anything else you want to talk about it?
Daydream: ..... Yes.
Daydream: I've had you killed every cycle until now.
Emily: It was you??
Daydream: ....You remember?
Emily: Yes I remember! Bob has jogged my memory!
Daydream: ... Damn Aliens.
Daydream: Well, Sorry for killing you thousands of times.
Daydream: I promised the Aliens I wouldn't kill anyone. And Bob = Aliens.
Emily: Okay...
Daydream: I've been... Really conceited. I felt I didn't need any help. So you being here is clear how fucked this place has gotten.
Daydream: I'm so alone...
Daydream: You're probably judging me with your Christian values.
Daydream: I bet you think you're hot shit. Nothing can sully precious cinnamon roll Emily. Too pure for this world.
Daydream: Well go ahead. Judge me.
Emily: I'm not judging you. It's pretty... bad. But I'm not going to judge you. I'm not the standard for humanity. I also have my sins.
Daydream: Oh yeah? Well it gets me off.
Emily: What??
Daydream: What Alice did. It happens every cycle.
Daydream: And I watch.
Daydream: Are you disgusted yet?
Emily: W...Wha--
Daydream: Sometimes I give Alice "some time to sleep" and I take over.
Emily: WHAT THE...?!
Daydream: Disgusting isn't it? It makes me sick.
Daydream: But I love it.
Daydream: I hate myself and Alice for what we did to Derrick.
Daydream: But, it's been a while since I've done that. At least a few thousand cycles.
Daydream: But in the first while....
Daydream: I did him like a dog.
Emily: Okay... Stop. This is gross...
Daydream: You're disgusted by me now, aren't you?
Emily: JUST.. STOP IT.
Emily: OKAY, IT IS DISGUSTING.
Emily: I THOUGHT YOU LOVED HIM.
Daydream: I told you it was fucked up.
Daydream: Besides getting Lucia's father killed and getting her eye fucked up, that is my biggest sin.
Daydream: And I feel... Relieved.
Daydream: I don't think anyone would respect me if I told them.
Daydream: Anyone but you.
Daydream: You respect me, don't you?
Emily: No. You don't have my respect.
Emily: But you're a person. Same as me.
Emily: You've done wrong, same as me.
Emily: And you have wronged me, but...
Emily: I don't hate you.
Daydream: Wow. Aren't you something.
Daydream: How long will you keep that attitude up?
Emily: It's how I am.
Emily: But you need serious help. Serious.
Emily: You may be criminally insane.
Daydream: ...
Daydream: Insane?
Daydream: Hehehe... Ha.
Daydream: I'm not insane.
Emily: .......
Emily: If you know what you're doing...
Emily: Then that makes you a psychopath.
Daydream: Huh.
Daydream: Perhaps.
Daydream: I bet the aliens are judging me.
Daydream: Like they're so perfect. Ha.
Daydream: I don't give a shit.
Daydream: I know I've done wrong.
Daydream: Do I regret it?
Daydream: ......
Daydream: The really fucked up part is, I don't.
Daydream: If given the chance, I would do it under better circumstances.
Daydream: I love Derrick so much and I want him so bad... I'd never allow anyone to have his first.
Daydream: If he was concious he'd never give it to me.
Daydream: I don't want him to see me badly if I forced it from him consciously...
Daydream: So unconsciously was the only way. The safest, selfish way.
Emily: The only way??
Daydream: Yes.
Daydream: Thanks for listening I guess.
Daydream: That's something you're good at it seems.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 04:45 AM
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Well fuck. Things just keep getting worse.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 06:38 AM
Well shit, this continues to add evidence to my theory that Alice/Daydream is going to end up with a bullet in her by the end of this, and not by our hands. Emily having her set of values seems to be a (for lack of a better term) godsend. Otherwise I don't think this conversation would have gone off as (using this word loosely) well as it has.
This might also be able to be used as a wedge between Lucas and her, assuming he doesn't know about it. A man in love may be or do many things, but think logically in regards to relationships is not known to be among them. If he finds out what happened between Daydream and Derrick I'm not entirely sure what he would do. He could go after Derrick, or start working against Daydream out of spite.
Key information: Daydream said she had Lucia's dad killed, and messed up her eye. The important question for this information is "did she mean only in the construct, or in real life?". Either way that's not going to help her relationship with Lucia, but it matters in the context of how much would it hurt if Lucia got her memories back, as well as what it could mean if Lucia totally disbelieves it in construct. We might be able to use this as something to either break the construct, or help Lucia to disbelieve it. It may also lend some credence to Ghen if it's only in construct, since he said the events that happened to Lucia's father here didn't happen outside the construct.
Also, Daydream is VERY certain that there is no possible way that Derrick would believe Emily. It seems to me that her plans and judgement are not quite up to snuff in this regard, as she doesn't seem to have noticed that Derrick is already dubious of her. Not to mention, there are ways of certifiably telling if somebody is lying or not. Lucia could use a lie detecting bullet on Emily, and she could repeat this in front of Derrick as proof. Time travel and various such mechanics exist where Derrick could watch the event as well. This is assuming we want to do such a thing, as well as what to look out for if somebody else decides to try any of these things when we don't want them to.
As for what to actually do about Daydream... well, as far as I'm concerned I think we should still find a way to deal with her, one way or the other. That has always been my opinion though. I'm more of a "practical problems" kind of guy, so I'll leave figuring out all the implications to you fine folk.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 07:08 AM
Well, this is a headache.
I hope Lucia doesn't know. I bet Nightmare does, though. Lucas might also because of dawn powers and stuff.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 08:22 AM
oookay... so there was no mumbling from Bob during the conversation, which means i was wrong, which is awesome!
It means we might be able to influence Emily to overcome her initial shock and give DD the help she so badly needs.
>Emily: You now have Daydream at a disadvantage. To get her to trust you, confide your own worse sins with her. Then make it clear to her that she clearly does not love Derrick enough, since loving someone implies wanting to protect them from everyone and everything, including yourself.
>Daydream: i don't judge you. The best thing about being us, is that we can rely on each-other to make the best decisions. But you have friends, which is exactly the same! You should try relying on them more often.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 09:32 AM
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I knew it, I knew alice was the mastermind behind lucia's incident and her father's death, part of my theory was right!. Every single theory I had about the "implied rape" part was wrong though. well played ip, Although I was correct in assuming alice was involved in something like this, I was so close.
This update changed how I view Alice, now i'll express my actual feelings on the matter, they are so volatile i'll have to contain them inside spoiler tags
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AW HELL NO YOU DIDN'T
IT'S ON BITCH
I am now quite indifferent to alice, if she died in the end, I wouldn't care that much.
You bet your ass i'm judging you alice, what you did was unforgivable, this means war, i'll make sure you never touch Derrick ever again, i'm gonna make lucia steal derrick from you, your heart will break in a million pieces, you could say it's an eye for an eye, there'll be retribution for all the things you did, I'm making sure that happens with my outside influence influences.
(am I really swearing revenge on a fictional character? this just goes to show how invested I am on this, I'm gonna go re analyze my life priorities.)
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 11:45 AM
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There's another thing that bears discussing...
Quote:Daydream: It was a long time ago for me.
Daydream: But just now for Alice.
I honestly hope she's lying about it already having happened, otherwise i feel like we've somehow let Derrick down.
Maybe Emily can somehow bring DayDream along with her and travel back in time to a point where DD could intervene? But then we'd also have to convince PAST DD to go along with the plan and create a stable time-loop... somehow >.>
Not gonna lie, this is quite a bombshell IP dropped on us, but we have to be strong enough to set aside our emotions and do what we do best: rationalize a way out of this.
Derrick's virginity lies in the balance you guise!
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 01:13 PM
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Well... wow. I had a feeling that something like this would happen, but the fact that it already had...
Setting aside the many things running through my head right now (was it the Lewdcidstuck? Was it my fault for bringing that up too much??? Baseless guilt??? Nah, iP probably had this planned from the beginning, as always.), assuming that yes, this event has already happened timeline-wise, the alcoholic effects on Derrick and what followed would explain why we haven't seen him in a while, plot-wise and possibly mechanic-wise.
For experimental reasons, I wonder what alcohol (and sexual activity) does to one's Lucid dreaming, if anything at all?
What do we do when we meet Derrick next, whether being Derrick or being somebody else meeting him?
Also, Daydream says Derrick was, "not conscious, shit-faced drunk, will not remember anything". Yet it's possible that this could remain with Derrick in some subconscious way. Considering dreams in their essence reflect the subconscious, something could happen around/to Derrick. And it could be pretty bad...
The best way possible to solve this would be to undo the event, at least in-construct. Anything but that will have massive repercussions on Derrick, Emily, Alice, Lucia, Lucas... hell everything could go to shit.
...
Damn, iP, back at it again with the contrite plans!
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 01:22 PM
well... i did the stream. my internet fucked up halfway, but you got my reaction XD
>Emily: wonder what kind of reaction Daydream is trying to get out of you. If she doesn't care what you think, why make herself sound so bad? Why the unneeded details?
get on ip, i got questions for you +___+
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 03:23 PM
(05-12-2016, 01:22 PM)Panur Wrote: »well... i did the stream. my internet fucked up halfway, but you got my reaction XD
>Emily: wonder what kind of reaction Daydream is trying to get out of you. If she doesn't care what you think, why make herself sound so bad? Why the unneeded details?
get on ip, i got questions for you +___+
This.
There's also always the option that Daydream lied about parts of things, or even entire things to get a reaction from Emily. Especially considering that she's also trying to figure out if Emily is real or not.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 05:12 PM
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Holy crud, that is dark! This, uh...this *might* be a problem for my 11-year-old sister who's currently reading through the comic...
Realllly hope Daydream is lying about a lotta that stuff...It wouldn't exactly be out of character for her to do something like this to get a reaction. But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of it was true, given how much she obsesses over Derrick.
Regardless of whether she's lying or not, IP, it might be a good idea to put a warning at the beginning of the comic that it's gonna cover dark themes like this. I myself have no problems with this kind of material, but like I said, my little sister started reading the comic a while back, and now that I know it covers themes like this, I'm kind of concerned.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 05:21 PM
(05-12-2016, 05:12 PM)lovelypenguin Wrote: »Holy crud, that is dark! This, uh...this *might* be a problem for my 11-year-old sister who's currently reading through the comic...
Realllly hope Daydream is lying about a lotta that stuff...It wouldn't exactly be out of character for her to do something like this to get a reaction. But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of it was true, given how much she obsesses over Derrick.
Regardless of whether she's lying or not, IP, it might be a good idea to put a warning at the beginning of the comic that it's gonna cover dark themes like this. I myself have no problems with this kind of material, but like I said, my little sister started reading the comic a while back, and now that I know it covers themes like this, I'm kind of concerned.
Yeah, as far as implications go, it doesn't delve much deeper than this. But out of respect for the readers, I will mention at the beginning of the mirror.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 05:50 PM
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(05-12-2016, 05:12 PM)lovelypenguin Wrote: »Holy crud, that is dark! This, uh...this *might* be a problem for my 11-year-old sister who's currently reading through the comic...
Wow... i feel bad for you dude :o
Although, to be fair, a comic as gory as this one probably wasn't a good idea for an 11-year-old's reading perusal.
If your lil sis cares about you, try to convince her that, for her own good, she should stop reading until she's ready to deal with all the dark and heartbreaking stuff ...if ever.
Try to downplay the "dark and edgy" aspect of the comic if she's into that, and just mention that there's a scene where she might feel really sad and betrayed and angry and that it's probably best for her to remember the characters as they are.
(05-12-2016, 01:22 PM)Panur Wrote: »well... i did the stream. my internet fucked up halfway, but you got my reaction XD
"Noooo~ Daydream, you don't need Christian values, you just need common Human values to know that rape is BAD!"
Yyep :I
Another command that would make sense:
>Piper: Alright missy, hold your horses! First of all, Emily is not the religious fanatic you make her out to be. You don't need to be a damn saint to know that rape is bad, you just need to be a decent human being. And second of all, for your own sake I hope you at-least had the common sense to use a condom.
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05-12-2016, 05:59 PM
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Wow. I spent some time to take all this in, and one thing that really stuck out to me is this line: "Daydream: Besides getting Lucia's father killed and getting her eye fucked up, that is my biggest sin." This confirms some things and explains Lucia's eye symbolism, but it tells us even more about what she didn't do: Unless she's lying here, she didn't kill her parents, and she didn't kill her foster parents!
But also something doesn't add up here: Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lucia getting her eye messed up was likely due to the incident with her stepdad. If Daydream is referring to getting Lucia's real dad killed, then why does the statement imply it happens in the same incident. If she'd referring to getting Lucia's stepdad killed, then why would Alice want him dead when him dying would be to Lucia's benefit? ... Though considering the incident, her intent may have been to kill Lucia.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 06:21 PM
(05-12-2016, 05:59 PM)The One Guy Wrote: »Wow. I spent some time to take all this in, and one thing that really stuck out to me is this line: "Daydream: Besides getting Lucia's father killed and getting her eye fucked up, that is my biggest sin." This confirms some things and explains Lucia's eye symbolism, but it tells us even more about what she didn't do: Unless she's lying here, she didn't kill her parents, and she didn't kill her foster parents!
But also something doesn't add up here: Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lucia getting her eye messed up was likely due to the incident with her stepdad. If Daydream is referring to getting Lucia's real dad killed, then why does the statement imply it happens in the same incident. If she'd referring to getting Lucia's stepdad killed, then why would Alice want him dead when him dying would be to Lucia's benefit? ... Though considering the incident, her intent may have been to kill Lucia.
....or she doens't really consider those sins : I
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 06:26 PM
Quote:Emily: Well, did you completely destroy him??
How tactfully put there Emily ^^
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 06:41 PM
(05-12-2016, 05:59 PM)The One Guy Wrote: »Wow. I spent some time to take all this in, and one thing that really stuck out to me is this line: "Daydream: Besides getting Lucia's father killed and getting her eye fucked up, that is my biggest sin." This confirms some things and explains Lucia's eye symbolism, but it tells us even more about what she didn't do: Unless she's lying here, she didn't kill her parents, and she didn't kill her foster parents!
But also something doesn't add up here: Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lucia getting her eye messed up was likely due to the incident with her stepdad. If Daydream is referring to getting Lucia's real dad killed, then why does the statement imply it happens in the same incident. If she'd referring to getting Lucia's stepdad killed, then why would Alice want him dead when him dying would be to Lucia's benefit? ... Though considering the incident, her intent may have been to kill Lucia.
Can you elaborate a bit more on the lucia eye symbolism? i've been racking my brain on that for a while now, and yes, I believe DD here is reffering to lucia's real dad. Him dying caused lucia's mom to marry that drunk guy that annoyed lucia so much, and we still don't know exactly how DD staged the shooting.
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05-12-2016, 07:04 PM
(05-12-2016, 06:41 PM)TerraTorment Wrote: »Can you elaborate a bit more on the lucia eye symbolism? What's there to elaborate? Lucia's symbol is an eye and she has marks under one of her eyes. This corresponds to Alice having messed up one of her eyes.
(05-12-2016, 06:41 PM)TerraTorment Wrote: »i've been racking my brain on that for a while now, and yes, I believe DD here is reffering to lucia's real dad. Him dying caused lucia's mom to marry that drunk guy that annoyed lucia so much, and we still don't know exactly how DD staged the shooting. Ok, yeah, the more information I'm finding in the comic, it seems like you're right. And though it wasn't the same incident that killed her dad and messed up her eye, it was all part of the same plan, hence why both actions were said in one line.
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05-12-2016, 07:07 PM
So, the Alice that Lucas is currently hanging out with is the one who just did that...
I'm thinking that if anyone else finds out, the whole situation will go down the tube really fast. One Lunatic was enough for now, thank you very much.
Perhaps Lucas already knows, and that is why he is depressed. He does remember the previous iterations.
Perhaps we should try to steer Alice towards Lucas?
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05-12-2016, 07:33 PM
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Hmm...I'm guessing Lucia finding out about one or both of these things Daydream just admitted to...that's probably what made her wanna kill her, resulting in the accidental death of Derrick.
Still really, *really* hope she's lying about most or all of that stuff. >.<
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 07:45 PM
Well, that was....er...interesting.
I'd gotten the earlier hints about how her feelings for him were more than family, but I didn't expect it to go that far...and the worst part is, it seems that it has just happened, while we were busy commanding other characters.
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05-12-2016, 08:07 PM
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Emily: You now have Daydream at a disadvantage. To get her to trust you, confide your own worse sins with her. Then make it clear to her that she clearly does not love Derrick enough, since loving someone implies wanting to protect them from everyone and everything, including yourself
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Emily: Well, since you've told something so intimate. I guess it would be fair if I shared a sin of my own.
Daydream: Oh? Miss goodie-goodie is a trouble maker?
Piper: Are you sure about this, Emily?
Emily: Yes.
Piper: Oooooh man...
Emily: I wasn't always the way I am.
Emily: I had a bit of an anger incident.
Emily: Took me about a year to get over it.
Emily: Some boys were harassing this girl I've talked to a couple times at school.
Emily: I tried to intervene, to help her. But they didn't take that too lightly.
Emily: Eventually they moved to me. Even girls started talking about me behind my back.
Emily: I got passive bullying for a long time. Then one day, I got a note.
Emily: "Hi Emily, I really like you, meet behind the school at 4pm."
Piper: Emily....
Daydream: SHHH. Go on.
Emily: Well, I went to see this person. And waited for 2 hours.
Emily: They never showed up, so I went home.
Emily: I was a little sad, but I was okay.
Emily: Then the next day i got another note apologizing for not showing up, and to meet again for the same time.
Emily: I shouldn't have gone, but I did...
Emily: At this time, I had no friends, no one treated me well.
Emily: I'd like to see this person.
Emily: After 30 minutes of waiting a group of people showed up.
Piper: Oh God...
Daydream: SHHH, PLEASE.
Emily: One of the boys had a bucket...
Emily: I looked at them all, thinking they were going to hurt me, but it was much worse.
Emily: The boy walked right up to me and dumped the bucket over my head...
Emily: It was gore.
Daydream: Whoa.
Emily: I guess he worked at a meat shop or something.
Emily: I was drenched in sour blood, maggots and rotting flesh.
Emily: They all started laughing hysterically.
Emily: I stood there covered in disgusting bloody waste.
Emily: And thoughts were swirling in my head.
Emily: Unforgivable.
Emily: Trash.
Emily: Wastes of oxygen.
Emily: I looked right at the boy, the look on his face quickly changed.
Emily: I reached out and griped his throat. I lunged so hard I tackled him to the ground.
Emily: I just held him there. Squeezing. Everyone there became petrified, they didn't know whether to run away or help.
Emily: So in weird way, they just stood there watching.
Emily: The boy gasped for help, but they didn't help.
Emily: Eventually a teacher saw and restrained me. The boy was hospitalized.
Emily: It turns out I squeezed so hard, I destroyed his vocal cords, and scarred his neck with my hand prints.
Emily: I was expelled from the school, and my parents and I moved away.
Daydream: Damn. I knew you'd have a temper, but not quite like that.
Emily: I wouldn't say I have one now, as much as I should for the amount of pain you've caused me.
Emily: I just learned how to forgive people. Treat others how you would like to be treated.
Emily: Now we should evaluate whether you really love your brother, or you're just obsessed with him, because they're not the same.
Daydream: W-what? How dare you!
Daydream: No one can question my love. They're not me.
Emily: What does love mean to you?
Daydream: ........
Daydream: Love is...
Daydream: I love Derrick! That's all that matters.
Emily: What does that mean? How do you love him?
Daydream: I take care of him! I protect him, I keep him safe.
Daydream: I make sure he's happy.
Daydream: No one can do this but me, because I've known him since birth.
Daydream: I'm the only one who understands and appreciates him.
Emily: Like a mother?
Daydream: What? No!
Emily: Like a sister?
Daydream: .... Like a lover.
Emily: If you ask me, you've overstepped your bounds...
Daydream: Well, I didn't ask you. If I'm going to be the only one who will truly love him, I should take the role of his lover!
Daydream: It's just a coincidence that I'm his sister.
Emily: Do you hear yourself?
Daydream: ...... Girls are a dime a dozen.
Daydream: You can always get someone to hold you, kiss you, or bang you.
Daydream: But that ends.
Daydream: At some point you will lose that person, and what will you have?
Daydream: You'll have friends, and family.
Daydream: I'm already Derrick's best friend, and his only family.
Daydream: I don't think anyone deserves to be his lover as much as I do.
Emily: That's not your choice to decide!
Daydream: ...!
Emily: You have to let Derrick decide who he wants to be with. Same as how you decided who you wanted to be with.
Emily: This is not love. This is possession under the pretence of love.
Emily: If you really loved Derrick, you'd let him choose you.
Emily: Not force him.
Emily: I think you know this already. He would never choose you.
Emily: If you told him the things you've done. He'd hate you.
Daydream: No... Derrick would never hate me.
Daydream: He loves me too, he knows family comes first.
Emily: Not lately... Lucia will get him to see the truth.
Emily: And how will you handle it? Will you hurt Derrick?
Daydream: N-never..!!
Emily: Will you lie through your teeth that we're all just against you?
Daydream: .......
Daydream: I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Emily: You can't sit there and tell me this is love. It's toxic.
Daydream: What do you know?
Emily: Love is kind. Love is patience. Love is forgiving.
Emily: You're none of these things.
Emily: How could you understand love?
Daydream: ......
Emily: Did you get love from your parents? What was that like?
Daydream: My parents didn't love me.
Daydream: It's always been Derrick for me.
Daydream: He's my reason for life. We entered this world together.
Emily: I'm worried about you. I hope you're not lying about any of this.
Daydream: ......
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 09:32 PM
Wow, this got a lot darker between the last two updates. It really does not look like Daydream's sanity is not doing well in the construct... she's gotten to the point where she really doesn't care, and likely actively looks forward to doing this every cycle. We can't really do anything about this right now though, as Daydream is holding together the construct, which we need in order to save Derrick...
Out of curiosity, do we still have access to the time travel gear, and does it go back to the last few panels derrick was in? If so, this cycle it could be undone, otherwise, welp.
I agree with lovelypenguin that this is what leads to Lucia attacking Alice, causing the death of Derrick. No wonder derrick has died every cycle... this is a constant throughout them all. It's also too late to have a cycle without this event occurring, so we will have to make due with it having happened.
Piper: Go Grimdark
Honestly, I have no commands. After Emily exits though, we may need her (or preferably lucia) to check up on Derrick's state.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 09:53 PM
(05-12-2016, 09:32 PM)tornskippito Wrote: »she's gotten to the point where she really doesn't care, and likely actively looks forward to doing this every cycle. I got the exact opposite impression: She doesn't look forward to doing this anymore and is only still doing it because she cares about saving Derrick.
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
05-12-2016, 09:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-12-2016, 09:58 PM by tornskippito.)
(05-12-2016, 09:53 PM)The One Guy Wrote: »I got the exact opposite impression: She doesn't look forward to doing this anymore and is only still doing it because she cares about saving Derrick. Interesting. If it is true that this is one of the events that leads to Lucia going beserk on Alice, wouldn't it be at least worth one cycle to see what would happen if she let alice get some sleep, and then NOT do this to derrick? The fact that the construct has gone for so many cycles and this was not a variable messed with points to daydream not going to full lengths to save derrick.
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