What ARE birds?

Seagulls are not birds

So we know that....

Birds:
Centipedes, Alligators, Bald Eagles, Penguins, Chickens, Spiders, Crows, Peacocks, Owls, Tyrannosauruses

Not Birds:
Humans, Snakes, Bees, Rotifers, Cockroaches, Worms, Mice, Annelids, Shrimp, Crocodiles, Gharials, Caimans, Ants, Canaries, Cassowaries, Housecats, Vultures, Herons, Ducks, Doves, Sparrows, Dodos, Tabby cats, Emus, Kiwis, Seagulls

Some are birds:
Birds, Reptiles, Domesticated Animals, Flightless Birds, Primates, Marsupials, Passerines

Are strict-herbivores birds?
Are insects birds?
Are sperm whales birds?
Are blue whales birds?
Are zoofights birds?
Are platypuses birds?
Are tasmainian devils birds?
Are velociraptors, ala jurassic park birds?
Are Squid birds?

Some strict-herbivores are birds.
Some insects are birds.
Sperm whales are not birds.
Blue whales are birds!
Zoofights, while an extremely good guess, are not birds.
Platypuses are not birds.
Tasmanian devils are not birds.
Velociraptors, Jurassic Park or otherwise, are not birds.
Squid are birds!

Now I'm sort of upset that my birds wasn't animals that have been Zoofights competitors

are dogs birds?

Are koalas birds?
Are opossums birds?
Are kangaroos birds?
Are wombats birds?
Are ratites birds?
Are kakapos birds?

Now I'm sort of upset that my birds wasn't animals that have been Zoofights competitors

AS YOU SHOULD BE.

Are animals that have never been represented in a drawing birds?

Are organisms that are not animals birds?

Are Elephants birds?
Are gorillas birds?

Are dinosaurs who are not Tyrannosauruses birds?

Out of the previous three posts, kangaroos and gorillas are birds. Some non-animal organisms are birds. Everything else asked is not birds.

Are plants birds?
Are fungi birds?
Are bacteria birds?
Are archaea birds?
Are protists birds?

Is what makes a bird taxonomically determined?

I kinda feel like it's cheating to ask this. Is it okay for me to ask questions related to the nature of the criteria?

I don't think taxonomy is a big deal for birds right now.

All of the mentioned birds are relatively popular animals. The T-rex is the only dinosaur that is a bird, Alligators are birds but not crocodiles, I wouldn't be surprised if kangaroos are the only marsupial birds and gorillas are the only primate birds.

Saying that animals that have not been represented in a drawing are not birds suggests that the category of what constitutes a bird is a reasonably referencable list, and that it is not a particular physical or behavioral trait of the organism.

Also zoofights, for anyone wondering, was a repeating collaborative web-comic/popularity contest wherein mutilated versions of animals fought one another and ridiculousness happened. Akumu actually did some of the art for one!

What I'm not sure of though is where birds come from.


Are marsupials that are not kangaroos birds?
Are primates that are not gorillas birds?
Are venus fly traps birds?
Are sea turtles birds?
Are non-human animals with sapience birds?
Are passerines that are not in the order Cordova birds?

Are ghosts birds

Okay let's do this thing.

Some plants are birds.
Some fungi are birds.
Bacteria are not birds.
Archaea are not birds.
Protists are not birds.

Gatr's question is not well-posed! At this stage I don't think I will answer.

Non-kangaroo marsupials are not birds.
Some non-gorilla primates are birds.
Venus fly traps are not birds.
Sea turtles are not birds.
Some non-human animals with sapience are birds, maybe.
All passerines are in the order Passeriformes, so, some.

Ghosts are not organisms so are not birds.

Is mold birds? Is mushroom birds? Are lichen birds? Are yeast birds?

Mold is not birds.
Mushrooms are birds!
Lichens are not birds.
Yeasts are not birds.

Are unicellular fungi birds?

Unicellular fungi are not birds.

Are gymnosperms birds?
Are angiosperms birds?

Birds:
Centipedes, Alligators, Bald Eagles, Penguins, Chickens, Spiders, Crows, Peacocks, Owls, Tyrannosauruses, Mushrooms

okay I'm gonna try something.

Gatr's question is not well-posed!

Is what makes a bird taxonomically determined?

Are the organisms that share a taxonomical trait that is exclusive to organisms that are birds but is not simply a listing of the names of organisms that are birds, birds?

Are Monkeys birds?
Are Flowers birds?
Are pacman birds?

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Oh no I do not want this to turn into Bird-nomic

Gymnosperms are not birds.
Some angiosperms are birds.
Some monkeys are birds.
Some flowers are birds.
Pacmen are not birds.

To your convoluted question, I believe the answer is no, those things are not birds.

Btp is asking if what birds are in this game, if all the birds are simply from a huge list, or do birds actually have something in common with each other.

(and not a list like "list of all things with this common trait" but something more arbitrary like that "things that were in zoofights")

Are ants birds?
Are cockroaches birds?
Are beetles birds?
Bees?
Wasps?
Termites?
Toads?
Turtles?
Hermit Crabs?

It was more like,
In an attempt to ask gatrs question in a "are ______ birds?" format I figured

If there was a name-basis to what birds are, similar to schazer's birds, then all organisms that were birds would share an exclusive trait, but if birds are not determined by a characteristic of their names then there is no such thing as a taxonomic trait exclusive to birds and thus there are no organisms that fit the given description - hence them not being birds.

But it could be said that the exclusive taxonomic trait is that they all belong to a list of names of names of the given organisms - hence the extra caveat.

But also by that point I realized I was getting too far away from the spirit of bird-game and too close to playing Nomic.


Are birds?
Are birds?
Are roses birds?
Are sunflowers birds?
Are fungi that are not mushrooms birds?

Are slugs birds?
Are trilobites birds?
Are octopuses birds?

Are things which would make awesome names for a sports team birds?

Ants are not birds.
Cockroaches are not birds.
Some beetles are birds.
Bees are not birds.
Some wasps are birds.
Termites are not birds.
Toads are not birds.
Turtles are birds!
Hermit crabs are not birds.

are not birds.
(octopuses) are birds!
Roses are birds!
Sunflowers are birds!
Non-mushroom fungi are not birds.

Slugs are not birds.
Trilobites are birds!
Octopuses are birds!

Birds are not things that would make awesome names for sports teams.

Are regular crabs birds?