RE: SUBFORUM IDEAS TOPIC
10-15-2014, 05:51 PM
EBWOP:
Nope nope nope, nope, nope nope. Nope. Nope! That is NOT how things work, ever, at all. Not from a formal debate perspective, not from a conversational perspective, not from a common sense perspective. You do not make arguments to affirm a negative; the person proposing something has to justify it, and people who disagree can address why they do and the points in the justification, not the other way around. As it stands, there are no rules; if you want to change that, demonstrate why you think it's necessary to.
Obviously more than zero people are interested in being allowed to post how they want and contributing in a more serious context; why should we regulate posting so that we can only post in the manner you particularly are interested in? I've already said WHY I disagree with that; if you can't see why people would, then you're not considering anyone else's perspective or preferences, and just trying to force things to confirm to your preferences. That's really exclusive! As you point out, we're not all equally close: many of us have different things we want out of the community or ways we want to communicate; why should we make it so that one portion of this extended circle's preferences are codified? It seems to me that (especially in a medium like a forum) it's better to, rather than restrict how people communicate or what they talk about, simply disregard things you're not interested in. Someone says something serious and you don't want to respond or have that conversation? Don't respond, just keep being flippant at the people that posted before, and the conversation will either split into two or the one more people want to have will take over the other. Someone consistently talks about things or in a way you don't like? Block them, you can always check their posts manually if something comes up you need to read something they said for context. Don't like a particular thread's too-serious contents? Post in a different thread about reptilehousesmells and keyquests. It's not fair to restrict what can be said and how to the particular style and contents one subgroup wants; at that point, you should just be starting your own splinter-splinter forum.
(10-15-2014, 09:18 AM)Jacquerel Wrote: »There should be a reason presented for not having rules, not the other way around.
Nope nope nope, nope, nope nope. Nope. Nope! That is NOT how things work, ever, at all. Not from a formal debate perspective, not from a conversational perspective, not from a common sense perspective. You do not make arguments to affirm a negative; the person proposing something has to justify it, and people who disagree can address why they do and the points in the justification, not the other way around. As it stands, there are no rules; if you want to change that, demonstrate why you think it's necessary to.
(10-15-2014, 09:18 AM)Jacquerel Wrote: »People suddenly springing from sentence or paragraphs of jollity to literal essays is not a difficult thing for anyone to be aware of, and it's transparently clear from the fact that it occurs both in other parts of the forum and on IRC, and immediately kills fun conversation and reduces participation whenever it happens, that people no longer want to contribute in that environment.
Obviously more than zero people are interested in being allowed to post how they want and contributing in a more serious context; why should we regulate posting so that we can only post in the manner you particularly are interested in? I've already said WHY I disagree with that; if you can't see why people would, then you're not considering anyone else's perspective or preferences, and just trying to force things to confirm to your preferences. That's really exclusive! As you point out, we're not all equally close: many of us have different things we want out of the community or ways we want to communicate; why should we make it so that one portion of this extended circle's preferences are codified? It seems to me that (especially in a medium like a forum) it's better to, rather than restrict how people communicate or what they talk about, simply disregard things you're not interested in. Someone says something serious and you don't want to respond or have that conversation? Don't respond, just keep being flippant at the people that posted before, and the conversation will either split into two or the one more people want to have will take over the other. Someone consistently talks about things or in a way you don't like? Block them, you can always check their posts manually if something comes up you need to read something they said for context. Don't like a particular thread's too-serious contents? Post in a different thread about reptilehousesmells and keyquests. It's not fair to restrict what can be said and how to the particular style and contents one subgroup wants; at that point, you should just be starting your own splinter-splinter forum.