RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People
06-04-2014, 05:37 AM
@schazer: haha yeah I remember one time I was legitimately wondering if I couldn't vote because my votes weren't showing up
also sorry I totally forgot about this all day, my brain has a limited number of TODO functions it can keep running at once I guess
frankly, I don't believe Gnauga's claim. it's too convenient, especially after so much prompting. remember when he asked what a survivor does? (and Schazer said "thanks for claiming not-survivor") I might be wrong, but I just don't see a new-ish player doing that level of deflection. I simply don't believe that we have another third party after the two superpowered ones that already flipped. That's a /lot/ of third party. Gnauga spends all day sitting on the edges of the conversation and then after enough people keep reiterating that there MUST be a third party, finally goes ahead and claims this magic thing. the complexity of the wincons might suggest reality but personally I find the whole thing just too pat.
I'm not very familiar with mentoring people as a scum leader but I know that any amount of brainstorming during the night can't do much for their behavior during the day. so I feel that if there's no daychat Gnauga could have gotten advice on a third-party claim (a good suggestion for scum who've stayed low-key, and survivors are pretty simple and unverifiable) without showing the effects of real, minute-to-minute mentoring. to be more succinct: I don't think new scum playing like new scum when their suspected bud is a more experienced player really counts as a towntell. giving a man a claim is one thing, teaching him to play mafia is another
also pala's claim is like...only supported by him knowing sotek's flavor right? unless there's something I'm missing. the point is if he's a scum flavorcop of course he can know that
like I trust sotek and all but I don't know if I approve of his trustingness here
to round this out and h8 on everyone: pilot's walls are nice, but I don't think nova accusing the cop bespeaks anything. nova seems to play more loose cannon style than "considering how this will look to others" style. 'swhy it was such a surprise when they checked town
also: I'm not the doc, but considering that the only no kill night was garuru's bp schazer could totally be lying about protecting donut since he hasn't been shot at yet. there's a lot of possibilities as to why donut isn't dead and none of them are "schazer can't be lying." I believe her but for other reasons and I think your reasons are flawed
btw schazer I unvoted palamedes right after sotek did back on page 46. in this case fogel's are actually correct? sorry
anyways vote: Gnauga if I am right then we'll have lynched scum if I'm wrong then tomorrow still won't be mylo
also sorry I totally forgot about this all day, my brain has a limited number of TODO functions it can keep running at once I guess
frankly, I don't believe Gnauga's claim. it's too convenient, especially after so much prompting. remember when he asked what a survivor does? (and Schazer said "thanks for claiming not-survivor") I might be wrong, but I just don't see a new-ish player doing that level of deflection. I simply don't believe that we have another third party after the two superpowered ones that already flipped. That's a /lot/ of third party. Gnauga spends all day sitting on the edges of the conversation and then after enough people keep reiterating that there MUST be a third party, finally goes ahead and claims this magic thing. the complexity of the wincons might suggest reality but personally I find the whole thing just too pat.
I'm not very familiar with mentoring people as a scum leader but I know that any amount of brainstorming during the night can't do much for their behavior during the day. so I feel that if there's no daychat Gnauga could have gotten advice on a third-party claim (a good suggestion for scum who've stayed low-key, and survivors are pretty simple and unverifiable) without showing the effects of real, minute-to-minute mentoring. to be more succinct: I don't think new scum playing like new scum when their suspected bud is a more experienced player really counts as a towntell. giving a man a claim is one thing, teaching him to play mafia is another
also pala's claim is like...only supported by him knowing sotek's flavor right? unless there's something I'm missing. the point is if he's a scum flavorcop of course he can know that
like I trust sotek and all but I don't know if I approve of his trustingness here
to round this out and h8 on everyone: pilot's walls are nice, but I don't think nova accusing the cop bespeaks anything. nova seems to play more loose cannon style than "considering how this will look to others" style. 'swhy it was such a surprise when they checked town
also: I'm not the doc, but considering that the only no kill night was garuru's bp schazer could totally be lying about protecting donut since he hasn't been shot at yet. there's a lot of possibilities as to why donut isn't dead and none of them are "schazer can't be lying." I believe her but for other reasons and I think your reasons are flawed
btw schazer I unvoted palamedes right after sotek did back on page 46. in this case fogel's are actually correct? sorry
anyways vote: Gnauga if I am right then we'll have lynched scum if I'm wrong then tomorrow still won't be mylo