RE: Black Zenith [Adventure RPG / Chapter Three: Forgotten Whispers]
09-17-2013, 02:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-17-2013, 03:14 PM by Dais.)
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SpoilerUm, wow you are favoring Nos there. I mean, I've been lazy about grabbing up loot so I can kinda see -why- you're doing that, but still. We don't need to dump all that stuff on Nos, surely.
So I guess I'll get power-gamey too, then? Blazer has leaderspeak and I don't so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt or whatever, but anyway. I do have one request for Nos. Watson's Starmetal Greatsword... cheezus that thing looked so built around Nos's Explosive! trait that I almost asked Chim if he had designed it with Nos in mind when we first saw it. Credit, I know Watson paid for that with his own cash but maybe we can work out a deal where Nos, like, borrows it and pays/trades Watson for ownership of it later? I mean, you do have another two-handed weapon already, correct?
Anyway, Aven'sara. Uhm, not so sure it's such a great idea -on- Nos. Yes, putting super buffs on Nos is a fine plan, but think about it. The only benefit lost from putting Aven'sara on someone other than Nos and having them buff him is his Explosive! trait. Because of Explosive!, Nos can only really cast every other turn. So yeah we'd be getting 30% stronger buffs on Nos but only half as many total buffs for other peeps. That's a waste of an item that grants a ridiculous +75% bonus. Also I'm pretty sure it wouldn't affect any of the side effects of Madness Dance? Alsoalso I will be honest I would rather not have to be nigh-obligated to cast buffs all the time, I'd rather buff Nos once and then spend the next couple spells testing how far Chim will let me go with necromancy and mind control and stuff.
Talking about who -should- get the caster stuff, the answer is probably Myra. I mean Savannah will probably work for a while but who can say how long it will be until we go into another place where her Aff and Str get swapped again? She wouldn't be a useless caster then but still a quite less powerful one. Myra meanwhile is always a hard-set caster. No offense to SupahKiven or Frolic if I've misinterpreted your characters. Talking about Aven'sara specifically it's pretty much a matter of who is willing to devote a lot of their time to buffing in the future, and I will point out that Savannah can just hand off Aven'sara to Myra in areas where there isn't sufficient plant life. And if we're talking about handing items off yes we can always experiment by handing Aven'sara off to Nos during a safe period and have him put a buff into the Spell Focus for maximum buffage.
(Lastedit: I have only just now noticed my totally fatal mistake of completely forgetting that Explosive! doesn't apply to spells cast from items arghdangitcursesragespitbile)
(Moreedit: I had words about the Ring of Hymm here, but then they were all invalidated when I realized that Savannah already has a bonus to her Affinity. So really I'd say she or Myra could use it equally well and comments about Savannah handing Aven'sara off in plantless lands apply to the Ring as well.))
Also the Hp potion thing is sweet and all but you don't have to -give- it to Nos, you can just use it on him when he needs it. A turn spent healing is a turn not spent attacking, so unless Bohw is hellbent or there's a lot of enemies to attack she might be a good candidate for potion duty, rather than making Nos or whoever use it on themselves. I mean unless it can only be used on whoever is holding it?
Finally I agree, and in fact insist, that Samsouvra stays with Thunderpaw. Half cooldown on all his nukes is just... s'just amazing, y'know? He's, like, gonna kill all the mofos. It's sick. It's unreasonable. It's o.p as hell heaven. Something like half cooldowns should be equally useful on all of us but I can't think of anybody who could use it half as well as Thunderpaw, that's how good it is on him.
So I guess I'll get power-gamey too, then? Blazer has leaderspeak and I don't so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt or whatever, but anyway. I do have one request for Nos. Watson's Starmetal Greatsword... cheezus that thing looked so built around Nos's Explosive! trait that I almost asked Chim if he had designed it with Nos in mind when we first saw it. Credit, I know Watson paid for that with his own cash but maybe we can work out a deal where Nos, like, borrows it and pays/trades Watson for ownership of it later? I mean, you do have another two-handed weapon already, correct?
Anyway, Aven'sara. Uhm, not so sure it's such a great idea -on- Nos. Yes, putting super buffs on Nos is a fine plan, but think about it. The only benefit lost from putting Aven'sara on someone other than Nos and having them buff him is his Explosive! trait. Because of Explosive!, Nos can only really cast every other turn. So yeah we'd be getting 30% stronger buffs on Nos but only half as many total buffs for other peeps. That's a waste of an item that grants a ridiculous +75% bonus. Also I'm pretty sure it wouldn't affect any of the side effects of Madness Dance? Alsoalso I will be honest I would rather not have to be nigh-obligated to cast buffs all the time, I'd rather buff Nos once and then spend the next couple spells testing how far Chim will let me go with necromancy and mind control and stuff.
Talking about who -should- get the caster stuff, the answer is probably Myra. I mean Savannah will probably work for a while but who can say how long it will be until we go into another place where her Aff and Str get swapped again? She wouldn't be a useless caster then but still a quite less powerful one. Myra meanwhile is always a hard-set caster. No offense to SupahKiven or Frolic if I've misinterpreted your characters. Talking about Aven'sara specifically it's pretty much a matter of who is willing to devote a lot of their time to buffing in the future, and I will point out that Savannah can just hand off Aven'sara to Myra in areas where there isn't sufficient plant life. And if we're talking about handing items off yes we can always experiment by handing Aven'sara off to Nos during a safe period and have him put a buff into the Spell Focus for maximum buffage.
(Lastedit: I have only just now noticed my totally fatal mistake of completely forgetting that Explosive! doesn't apply to spells cast from items arghdangitcursesragespitbile)
(Moreedit: I had words about the Ring of Hymm here, but then they were all invalidated when I realized that Savannah already has a bonus to her Affinity. So really I'd say she or Myra could use it equally well and comments about Savannah handing Aven'sara off in plantless lands apply to the Ring as well.))
Also the Hp potion thing is sweet and all but you don't have to -give- it to Nos, you can just use it on him when he needs it. A turn spent healing is a turn not spent attacking, so unless Bohw is hellbent or there's a lot of enemies to attack she might be a good candidate for potion duty, rather than making Nos or whoever use it on themselves. I mean unless it can only be used on whoever is holding it?
Finally I agree, and in fact insist, that Samsouvra stays with Thunderpaw. Half cooldown on all his nukes is just... s'just amazing, y'know? He's, like, gonna kill all the mofos. It's sick. It's unreasonable. It's o.p as hell heaven. Something like half cooldowns should be equally useful on all of us but I can't think of anybody who could use it half as well as Thunderpaw, that's how good it is on him.