Re: WHO ARE THE REAL MONSTERS?!?!?!??!? MAFIA D2: ONE DEATH??? IMPOSSIBLE
01-31-2013, 07:16 AM
Originally posted on MSPA by Luneix.
@Paranoia - I think you pretty much got the gist of what I was saying - I wasn't trying to clear Tea's name per se, but instead pointing out that (again, like you said) it was a shitstorm and that thinking about it laterally gave any number of equally likely outcomes, including Tea being Town or Op-Scum. This was mainly to point out that we should be considering avenues of approach wider than just "bandwagon Tea".
Okay, as people have pointed out, while I can do ANALYSIS WALLS, I'm pretty shitty at giving my own opinion, so for your viewing pleasure, I'll give a read-wall here:
People I'm Fairly Solid On:
Anacreon: TOWN - I know some people are weirded out by his bear wrestling, but I'm almost certain that his fluff we know about is town-oriented, and that his Bear-wrestling ability wouldn't make sense narrative or game-wise when given to a scum player.
Paranoia: TOWN - Despite a pretty hard to read quirk at first (although I think that was part of his role), in my mind he's been one of the more clear and analytical players, making good points and prompting clear discussion.
Agent 1022: TOWN - Bore the brunt of my rather careless voting earlier, which I'm going to redact as I now see that it was based on quite the shaky argument. Seems to have been quite decent and analytical, using both their own arguments and taking into account other people's with fairly little scummy-action. Seems like one of the most clear cut Townie's to me.
People I'm Wavering On:
Solaris: Tentative Scum - Although I acknowledge the glorious level of humour they've brought to the game, I can't help but notice that they've posted a considerable amount with a significant lack of content or analysis. The only thing I really know for sure is that they're probably a lyncher for Tea, and thus the lack of knowledge I have about Sol makes them seem one of the scummier players in my eyes.
Mirdini: Tentative Town - 'dini seems to have been pretty helpful, and clear with his first read-wall and questioning. His sparse posting and the thick layer of fluff that surrounded his second read-wall is basically all that's barring me putting him into the Solid category.
Ixcalibur: Tentative Scum - From what I've seen, Ix seems to be much like Solaris but with a lot less posting - so far he's given massive walls of text with very little of worth in them, which makes me think he's possibly scummin' it up.
People I'm Bewildered By:
A Killer Cuppa Tea: While I've conjectured that Tea might not be scum, that was mainly to avoid early bandwagon'ing and get more lateral arguments to be brought forward about their guilt. UNDECIDED.
Palamedes: So far Pala's myriad posts and aggressiveness towards any scummy behaviour could be seen as either a tough-town or a smokescreening-scum. JURY IS OUT.
Konec0: Same boat as Pala for me. UP IN THE AIR.
TehPilot: The whole busdrivering Guy/Tea thing, without further evidence, seems a bit sus' whether it occurred or not. UNJUDGEMENT DAY.
CuriousCat: Yeah, so far Cat has been pretty damn hard to read (bar earlier trolling) that I'm not even gonna try. NOT EVEN GOING THERE.
Basically, anyone I haven't mentioned goes in the Bewildered category, either because I don't have a clear idea of them in my head (Beruru, Namboto, Seedy, Schazer) or because they've posted very sparingly (due to travel, I think?) and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt (Seastorm, CuttlefishCuller).
Anyway, now that I've done that, I think I'm going to shift my vote to Vote: Solaris, as frankly apart from Ix, they're the person I have the most to go on, and Ix seems to have been relatively harmless votewise.
As an addendum, TehPilot, is there anything you can do to confirm, or at least assuage our doubts about your busdriver'ness? Or can anyone else come forwards with happenings from last night?
@Paranoia - I think you pretty much got the gist of what I was saying - I wasn't trying to clear Tea's name per se, but instead pointing out that (again, like you said) it was a shitstorm and that thinking about it laterally gave any number of equally likely outcomes, including Tea being Town or Op-Scum. This was mainly to point out that we should be considering avenues of approach wider than just "bandwagon Tea".
Okay, as people have pointed out, while I can do ANALYSIS WALLS, I'm pretty shitty at giving my own opinion, so for your viewing pleasure, I'll give a read-wall here:
People I'm Fairly Solid On:
Anacreon: TOWN - I know some people are weirded out by his bear wrestling, but I'm almost certain that his fluff we know about is town-oriented, and that his Bear-wrestling ability wouldn't make sense narrative or game-wise when given to a scum player.
Paranoia: TOWN - Despite a pretty hard to read quirk at first (although I think that was part of his role), in my mind he's been one of the more clear and analytical players, making good points and prompting clear discussion.
Agent 1022: TOWN - Bore the brunt of my rather careless voting earlier, which I'm going to redact as I now see that it was based on quite the shaky argument. Seems to have been quite decent and analytical, using both their own arguments and taking into account other people's with fairly little scummy-action. Seems like one of the most clear cut Townie's to me.
People I'm Wavering On:
Solaris: Tentative Scum - Although I acknowledge the glorious level of humour they've brought to the game, I can't help but notice that they've posted a considerable amount with a significant lack of content or analysis. The only thing I really know for sure is that they're probably a lyncher for Tea, and thus the lack of knowledge I have about Sol makes them seem one of the scummier players in my eyes.
Mirdini: Tentative Town - 'dini seems to have been pretty helpful, and clear with his first read-wall and questioning. His sparse posting and the thick layer of fluff that surrounded his second read-wall is basically all that's barring me putting him into the Solid category.
Ixcalibur: Tentative Scum - From what I've seen, Ix seems to be much like Solaris but with a lot less posting - so far he's given massive walls of text with very little of worth in them, which makes me think he's possibly scummin' it up.
People I'm Bewildered By:
A Killer Cuppa Tea: While I've conjectured that Tea might not be scum, that was mainly to avoid early bandwagon'ing and get more lateral arguments to be brought forward about their guilt. UNDECIDED.
Palamedes: So far Pala's myriad posts and aggressiveness towards any scummy behaviour could be seen as either a tough-town or a smokescreening-scum. JURY IS OUT.
Konec0: Same boat as Pala for me. UP IN THE AIR.
TehPilot: The whole busdrivering Guy/Tea thing, without further evidence, seems a bit sus' whether it occurred or not. UNJUDGEMENT DAY.
CuriousCat: Yeah, so far Cat has been pretty damn hard to read (bar earlier trolling) that I'm not even gonna try. NOT EVEN GOING THERE.
Basically, anyone I haven't mentioned goes in the Bewildered category, either because I don't have a clear idea of them in my head (Beruru, Namboto, Seedy, Schazer) or because they've posted very sparingly (due to travel, I think?) and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt (Seastorm, CuttlefishCuller).
Anyway, now that I've done that, I think I'm going to shift my vote to Vote: Solaris, as frankly apart from Ix, they're the person I have the most to go on, and Ix seems to have been relatively harmless votewise.
As an addendum, TehPilot, is there anything you can do to confirm, or at least assuage our doubts about your busdriver'ness? Or can anyone else come forwards with happenings from last night?