RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Three: A Bloody Denouement [16/21]
09-13-2018, 05:52 PM
I will point out that there has been zero confirmation of my claim or schazer's; it has been both of us saying trust us to the group the entire game. I don't think that that means you should trust us, I just do think that it means that as scum we put ourselves in a great position for two of us to die for no reason once somebody cops or vigs one of us because it would reveal the alignment of both (unless we were cross aligned lovers and you hit the town one in which case you would effectively have a town confirmation on an anti town party I suppose but I don't think that sort of role is in this game, and copping or killing one of us would prove that's not the case). There's not a lot of reason to trust us, it's just that it's going to be very easy to figure things out later on and there's more important things to do now.
@Pala: it's not just that I think that between the two of them NTA is a better loss, though that is part of it: they've also just been pretty resistant to doing any actual scum hunting, while Sai has been contributing to discussion a bit albeit in a way that you feel is obfuscation, and in the absence of any significant flips on people that either of them have talked about, nta's behavior reads as scummier to me although in a way that I acknowledge could simply be them not knowing what to do or how to contribute right now. Maybe I'm just feeling good enough about having killed 2 scum in 3 days that I feel like being have enough leeway to go with my gut on this one, I don't know. As I said my last post, I will definitely switch off of NTA on to sai if neither has gotten to soft territory closer to the end of the day because I do think that they are both solid helpful lynches, I just would rather start with n t a, and that preference isn't very strong. I wouldn't kill you right now if I had one of the very many One-Shots that's floating around to do that it seems, because even back when you were kind of on my radar as a somewhat suspicious player, it was significantly informed by how differently you were playing from how I remembered you playing rather than any serious suspicions. You wouldn't tell me much upon your death and I'm not suspicious of you as scum enough to feel like the one kill would be worth it. You honestly haven't been important to discussion enough for me even particularly like copping you when there are are much better targets that I'm more suspicious of. I'm just trying to watch your play because I don't know where to put you and that makes me leery. I went back and reread most of your posts from today and it honestly seems like our reads are on very similar pages with the exception of schazer that I have mechanical information on that you don't, seedy who you have as slightly more town than I do and I'm not 100% sure why, and RL who you seem unusually sure is not scum for someone who hasn't really contributed anything meaningful for the whole game. I guess I could have missed something. They all seem like pretty reasonable reads, and with the exception of RL and granola you're not trying to make anyone I'm not sure is town seem town, so they don't make me feel very bad about you. I'm definitely interested to see sai's flip now that you've had much more extensive interactions with them, so even if this day doesn't go the way I'd prefer I think I'm going to be happy with the result. I've said you're low on my list of scum reads, but I suppose it's more accurate to say that you're high on my list of people that I have been trying to watch more closely to get a better idea of. I was more suspicious earlier in the game when we had less concrete details to go off of.
I will point out that while no one has mentioned in the thread that they were cleaned I know through mysterious means that someone was cleaned last night and who it was. Whatever the bear did to me is still happening. Yeehaw!
@Pala: it's not just that I think that between the two of them NTA is a better loss, though that is part of it: they've also just been pretty resistant to doing any actual scum hunting, while Sai has been contributing to discussion a bit albeit in a way that you feel is obfuscation, and in the absence of any significant flips on people that either of them have talked about, nta's behavior reads as scummier to me although in a way that I acknowledge could simply be them not knowing what to do or how to contribute right now. Maybe I'm just feeling good enough about having killed 2 scum in 3 days that I feel like being have enough leeway to go with my gut on this one, I don't know. As I said my last post, I will definitely switch off of NTA on to sai if neither has gotten to soft territory closer to the end of the day because I do think that they are both solid helpful lynches, I just would rather start with n t a, and that preference isn't very strong. I wouldn't kill you right now if I had one of the very many One-Shots that's floating around to do that it seems, because even back when you were kind of on my radar as a somewhat suspicious player, it was significantly informed by how differently you were playing from how I remembered you playing rather than any serious suspicions. You wouldn't tell me much upon your death and I'm not suspicious of you as scum enough to feel like the one kill would be worth it. You honestly haven't been important to discussion enough for me even particularly like copping you when there are are much better targets that I'm more suspicious of. I'm just trying to watch your play because I don't know where to put you and that makes me leery. I went back and reread most of your posts from today and it honestly seems like our reads are on very similar pages with the exception of schazer that I have mechanical information on that you don't, seedy who you have as slightly more town than I do and I'm not 100% sure why, and RL who you seem unusually sure is not scum for someone who hasn't really contributed anything meaningful for the whole game. I guess I could have missed something. They all seem like pretty reasonable reads, and with the exception of RL and granola you're not trying to make anyone I'm not sure is town seem town, so they don't make me feel very bad about you. I'm definitely interested to see sai's flip now that you've had much more extensive interactions with them, so even if this day doesn't go the way I'd prefer I think I'm going to be happy with the result. I've said you're low on my list of scum reads, but I suppose it's more accurate to say that you're high on my list of people that I have been trying to watch more closely to get a better idea of. I was more suspicious earlier in the game when we had less concrete details to go off of.
I will point out that while no one has mentioned in the thread that they were cleaned I know through mysterious means that someone was cleaned last night and who it was. Whatever the bear did to me is still happening. Yeehaw!