RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21]
08-30-2018, 01:31 PM
OKAY WAY BELATED "LET'S POST BEFORE SLEEPING" POST.
i'll be sort of jumping through the thread to try and remember/reconfirm things so if it seems a little disjointed it's because i'm probably editing the post in various places as i go
alright okay so so so
Iiiii think BlazerC is town now? This seems to not be a controversial opinion despite everything because being mafia wouldn't make sense to try and literally ask to be lynched. Some sort of mafia lynch-proc isn't completely out of the question, but unlikely at best. So, like, town a bit too eager to use their ability?? Orrr Jester. Either way, not in favor of lynching them. Did say I was never good with gambits.
sooo then like aC. At first I was like 'hey why so needlessly hostile against him' but like honestly the bringing up of talking about not liking d1 lynches and then jumping on the lynch bandwagon keeps being on my mind. Maybe just because of how I held a similar position and stuck to it. Seedy doesn't count there were a lot of threes going on this was Jokes. i like repeating numbers. fight me. less jokes and more aesthetic i guess. this is getting stupid.
Point is, it stuck out to me as weird. I guess that's my answer to the question way back when about my Q wagon opinion. Agree with idea that at least one person on there is scum and I have an opinion on the most notable member of the train.
oh yeah noticed another thing directed vaguely at me -- the 'everybody against me' thing was also jokes. I think I made one like, real post during all of day 1. But the one about how I was sure I'm the only townie I thought was really clear as literally just a joke??
like honestly i can just barely parse most of ac's reasoning behind a lot of things. I'm just gonna
vote: awkwardCarapace
unless something makes me feel otherwise
okay it's around here that i've gotten back to the second half of the night
aci starts out against me and like honestly i can't even be offended because like, yeah no i've done nothing. this is reasonable.
Right so the first big thing that happens is aci confidently declares that aC must be town, because they are smug. Claims a death-proc role. Deduces that means that aC must have a third death-proc. ....
actually wait fuck i don't even know if i can find this unlikely because I have suspicion that if I've got a secret part of my role it's death-proc? It's a theory based on barely anything but, hm. If death is a theme here, maybe. So maybe aci could be onto something here!
But! Let's continue on with where this ended up!
so like seedy refutes this idea, not necessarily that ac would have a death role so much as the fact that it means town. This somehow is read as aggressive enough to cause aci to vote for them. Then follows a whooooole lot of confidence about how scum would never be given a power that activates upon death because that'd just be unfair!! But like, if we do indeed have a theme going on with abilities... wouldn't it make sense if one of the scum were to have something like that? Especially if multiple townies have death-proc? Definitely not saying it's certain but I really really don't think it's something one could be certain to be not true. It's weird.
And then it's back and forth with a bunch of seedy saying something and aci seeming to completely misunderstand what's said and like it's been a while but i'm pretty sure aci is good at this so i don't even know what this communication breakdown is and like
But would it make sense for aci to be scum? Like, if ac flips scum, does that mean Aci is scum?? Going this incredibly hard on protecting another mafia would be like, suicide, and when you're already down one this early, is that smart? aC doesn't seem particularly concerned with self-preservation. So maybe Aci is just so convinced they have to be town that they are willing to stake their life on it. But with all the different reactions to the aC/Blazer scenario, lynching one of them does seem like it'll be interesting to look at the fallout regardless, right? And there's this whole thing with like "wow you're presenting POSSIBILITIES" which is fucking BIZARRE because he's treating death role = good guy as a fucking confirmed fact rather than another POSSIBILITY itself. I don't fucking get it what the hell is this.
and then aC claims they don't even have a death role so what is even the whole point of this??????????
Conclusion: i don't even fucking know. I want to know what aC is and then I have no clue what this means for aci, but it could look really bad, and if it does i don't know why it had to be this way!! And if aC is town then like, fuck i don't know. Congrats to those who opposed? *throws papers in the air*
misc thoughts on people other than our star fighters today
-solly early sided against blazerc, was on the q wagon. dunno if that means anything. could later. not sure i buy that hopping around lynches wouldn't make sense but i'm largely neutral on that. aci commented on seedy's vote for ac seeming like a potential bus vote but i could see sol's as that too if a scumflip. more reasons for me wanting to see aC flip.
-slorange actually i don't have a specific thing to say about them so much as the cleaning mention and i want to know if Justice Watchberuru does in fact have anything to do with it. Have to assume the flavor was outed from JW's post??
side note: i actually think the 3rd party lynch was only 75% good at most b/c they might have been a serial killer counter
this took me two hours to write. could have slept earlier but instead i was like 'oh i'll try donut county' before doing writing and instead of playing a couple of levels instead decided to play the entire game. i don't even think i wrote a particuarly illuminating piece of analysis whatever i'm done it's 6:30 am goodnight
i'll be sort of jumping through the thread to try and remember/reconfirm things so if it seems a little disjointed it's because i'm probably editing the post in various places as i go
alright okay so so so
Iiiii think BlazerC is town now? This seems to not be a controversial opinion despite everything because being mafia wouldn't make sense to try and literally ask to be lynched. Some sort of mafia lynch-proc isn't completely out of the question, but unlikely at best. So, like, town a bit too eager to use their ability?? Orrr Jester. Either way, not in favor of lynching them. Did say I was never good with gambits.
sooo then like aC. At first I was like 'hey why so needlessly hostile against him' but like honestly the bringing up of talking about not liking d1 lynches and then jumping on the lynch bandwagon keeps being on my mind. Maybe just because of how I held a similar position and stuck to it. Seedy doesn't count there were a lot of threes going on this was Jokes. i like repeating numbers. fight me. less jokes and more aesthetic i guess. this is getting stupid.
Point is, it stuck out to me as weird. I guess that's my answer to the question way back when about my Q wagon opinion. Agree with idea that at least one person on there is scum and I have an opinion on the most notable member of the train.
oh yeah noticed another thing directed vaguely at me -- the 'everybody against me' thing was also jokes. I think I made one like, real post during all of day 1. But the one about how I was sure I'm the only townie I thought was really clear as literally just a joke??
like honestly i can just barely parse most of ac's reasoning behind a lot of things. I'm just gonna
vote: awkwardCarapace
unless something makes me feel otherwise
okay it's around here that i've gotten back to the second half of the night
aci starts out against me and like honestly i can't even be offended because like, yeah no i've done nothing. this is reasonable.
Right so the first big thing that happens is aci confidently declares that aC must be town, because they are smug. Claims a death-proc role. Deduces that means that aC must have a third death-proc. ....
actually wait fuck i don't even know if i can find this unlikely because I have suspicion that if I've got a secret part of my role it's death-proc? It's a theory based on barely anything but, hm. If death is a theme here, maybe. So maybe aci could be onto something here!
But! Let's continue on with where this ended up!
so like seedy refutes this idea, not necessarily that ac would have a death role so much as the fact that it means town. This somehow is read as aggressive enough to cause aci to vote for them. Then follows a whooooole lot of confidence about how scum would never be given a power that activates upon death because that'd just be unfair!! But like, if we do indeed have a theme going on with abilities... wouldn't it make sense if one of the scum were to have something like that? Especially if multiple townies have death-proc? Definitely not saying it's certain but I really really don't think it's something one could be certain to be not true. It's weird.
And then it's back and forth with a bunch of seedy saying something and aci seeming to completely misunderstand what's said and like it's been a while but i'm pretty sure aci is good at this so i don't even know what this communication breakdown is and like
But would it make sense for aci to be scum? Like, if ac flips scum, does that mean Aci is scum?? Going this incredibly hard on protecting another mafia would be like, suicide, and when you're already down one this early, is that smart? aC doesn't seem particularly concerned with self-preservation. So maybe Aci is just so convinced they have to be town that they are willing to stake their life on it. But with all the different reactions to the aC/Blazer scenario, lynching one of them does seem like it'll be interesting to look at the fallout regardless, right? And there's this whole thing with like "wow you're presenting POSSIBILITIES" which is fucking BIZARRE because he's treating death role = good guy as a fucking confirmed fact rather than another POSSIBILITY itself. I don't fucking get it what the hell is this.
and then aC claims they don't even have a death role so what is even the whole point of this??????????
Conclusion: i don't even fucking know. I want to know what aC is and then I have no clue what this means for aci, but it could look really bad, and if it does i don't know why it had to be this way!! And if aC is town then like, fuck i don't know. Congrats to those who opposed? *throws papers in the air*
misc thoughts on people other than our star fighters today
-solly early sided against blazerc, was on the q wagon. dunno if that means anything. could later. not sure i buy that hopping around lynches wouldn't make sense but i'm largely neutral on that. aci commented on seedy's vote for ac seeming like a potential bus vote but i could see sol's as that too if a scumflip. more reasons for me wanting to see aC flip.
-slorange actually i don't have a specific thing to say about them so much as the cleaning mention and i want to know if Justice Watchberuru does in fact have anything to do with it. Have to assume the flavor was outed from JW's post??
side note: i actually think the 3rd party lynch was only 75% good at most b/c they might have been a serial killer counter
this took me two hours to write. could have slept earlier but instead i was like 'oh i'll try donut county' before doing writing and instead of playing a couple of levels instead decided to play the entire game. i don't even think i wrote a particuarly illuminating piece of analysis whatever i'm done it's 6:30 am goodnight
PowerfulFriendly Baby Also this?