The Wander Island Incident - Night Four - Five For One [13/21]

Okay so I'll be honest and I've barely even skimmed the last few pages. I've been really busy and every time I try to take a few minutes to get back in the Blazer/aC wall apocalypse keeps me from putting my thoughts together, so I'm going to have to more or less skip them if I want to get anything together at all. I'll go back over it all later if I have time and/or it becomes critical knowledge, but it feels like neither of those situations are going to come up anytime soon. I realize that's super messed up considering I'm throwing a wall down here, but what can you do.

Note: Bolded a few names here because I'm specifically trying to ask a few questions and I know a lot of this will get lost due to sheer length. I'll vote right at the end to make things clear.

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SpoilerI feel like I recognize a lot of the frustration Blazer is putting forward from my own stupid arguments with someone I'm convinced is scum, which makes me feel pretty decent about him (seedy uses the word 'bluster', which is both accurate and something I feel is more townish in a stupid argument, whereas I feel like scum tends to more panic in those situations). From what I have skimmed, aC seemed to waver more between being purely defensive and doing what people wanted him to do. Still less interested in a lynch that way then I was before because this is an awful lot of noise to be making, but I'd kill them over Blazer if I had to choose right now. Also of note, neither of them are talking about anything that doesn't directly relate to them right now so it'd be cool if they did.

Justice Watch responded at least which is something, but I'm as unhappy with it as I was with Numbers' posts or a lot of aC's early ones (just a general lack of commitment on anything/focus on safe comments). Like, even just pick the three people you would kill right now if you had to choose.

Numbers and Airey falling back on the public cop question from D1 feels weird, but Airey's post is at least trying to bring in some info from Pharmacy's flip while Numbers is just... talking about flavour and rehashing aC's arguments regarding third parties? It makes me feel like aC and Numbers aren't coaligned, and the sort of hypocritical jump on Blazer for talking about the Siren in a post mostly dedicated to talking about the Siren makes me feel comfortable lynching them. I'm also not getting a bussing vibe from the vote so I'm doubting a Blazer/Numbers scum coalignment as well.

I mostly like TehPilot's post #350 but using logic leaps based around Solaris to figure out a Blazer/aC nonalignment is pretty silly based on how today's gone so far. Pilot, do you think this big argument between the two is potentially staged?

NTA asked Schazer the question I wanted to ask re: aC, and while I'd like some more cohesive thoughts of their own re: who is scum and who is town they also asked a lot of other good questions. I know I didn't phrase that as a question, but could you give some solid reads? If you think Blazer and aC could be pulling some crazy scum gambit, what are your thoughts on the more notable commenters on the argument?

I do not like Solaris' post #355. It just reads as super defensive (when none of their previous posts were anything of the sort) while also throwing shade at seedy for reasons that are a mystery to me (besides a Solaris/Schazer scumteam, even though I don't immediately think that's what's going on). If you think seedy is town why do you think her vote is bussing?

I disagree with Acio and NTA's retraction on Sai, which is to say that I agreed with NTA's comments. Like yes, Sai posted a fair amount D1 but for the life of me I cannot remember a single thing about anything they said outside of the posts that were quoted today. Even those quotes are fairly forgettable and don't add much to the discussion past just saying they think Schazer is weird. The only Sai interaction worth remembering is Pharmacy's defence (though while not damning, is not great either). Now that there are two major flips and a lot of important discussion I'd need to see what they post if I was to take them off of my theoretical murder list.

Jaq, good post where you voted for aC but after the depth you put into analyzing their and Solaris' votes I was hoping to see you do the same for the remaining voters (granola, Pilot, Blazer though I know you've talked about him a little bit). If aC flips town who would you look at between those three and Solaris next on that wagon?

I think it is super interesting how immediate the Blazer wagon fell apart/people started defending him between pages 15 and 16. I literally am running out of time as I'm typing this so I don't have a lot of time to look over it but Schazer and Numbers stand out as particularly odd.

I actually sort of see where seedy is coming from re: the exasperated vote on aC. I wanted to actually go hard on Numbers at the end of this but now it feels like anything that isn't an aC lynch is now pointless. I also just disagree that in a seedy scumworld aC was proving to be a liability - their lynch is about as close to certain as I feel you can get at this point, and they haven't really been implicating many people that they haven't already earlier in the day. That's what I would say, anyways, if seedy didn't go into a larger than necessary tangent defending themselves. I think it merits having an eye on them, but not necessarily a 'definite bus, must lynch'.

Speaking of Numbers, they are trying really hard to avoid having any sort of stance on aC, and it's throwing me for loops because that either implies coalignment (which I wasn't getting at all before) or that they want to look good in a town!aC world post lynch, which also seems different from their more reactionary playstyle so far.

The last two pages are just a lot. More than I can deal with right now. I don't really like Sai or Slorange's posts, don't agree that killing Blazer is a good move, Solaris is going wildly back and forth re: posts that make me want to kill them and not want to kill them, not sure what Acio is on about - aC's role isn't a death role from what you're saying? Being smug doesn't make sense if you have an on death power (this early in the game, at least), and they've been actively fighting being lynched.
I assume some vote analysis is going on and I'll give it a look but I just don't see much point in voting for someone who hasn't been active when we have a killer taking care of people like that for us.

Could vote for Solaris if it wasn't for that wagon, not going to vote for Blazer, I don't think I'm going to be around before dayend anymore than this and maybe one or two short posts so I don't want to bank on a Numbers/Schazer vote happening.

Vote: aC