RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow
07-08-2018, 12:56 AM
With probably three scum left:
Town
Reyweld
Schazer - The mason counterpart to Solaris, who is confirmed with no counterclaim. Mixmasons is unlikely as Schazer admitted to shooting Solaris, which would be a huge loss for a scum team (who could have direct manipulation over a doctor) and would be stupid to admit when claiming vigilante. So Solaris died N2, which nullifies that point. I think my belief that they’re still definitely town comes down to my belief that mixmasons pairing the only (as far as we know) doctor with someone who could kill them at their earliest convenience and/or manipulate them into protecting the wrong people or other scum would be busted. Schazer’s actions have been very town oriented, and mechanically I have no reason to doubt them.
Palamedes - I can’t see Scum!Pala. Coldblooded had no suspicion on them when Palamedes sprung that oneshot cop item (here), and Coldblooded was also the scum roleblocker, which would be essential in a game with all power roles.
2 Scum in here:
Wheat: Semi-absent due to trip, but provides a lot of opinions without their reasoning behind them. Or maybe I just can’t understand what they’re trying to express when they quote two posts and leave them there. Scum!Wheat would leave me very confused, as I am very sure they are a mailman and I don’t understand how swirling around items chaotically as they have could help scum team. Also, someone said a52 was the same alignment as Wheat when taking redirects into effect, so Wheat’s likely in the clear.
Seedy: Scum!Seedy would be a huge problem for town. They claimed Miller day one, which is a sound play for both a real miller and a skilled scum. However, Seedy was right on top of CSJ, and has been providing using dialogue and lots of opinions. Town!Seedy is far more likely at this point, unless Scum!Robust Laser is a thing (which would make their interaction a way to distance themself from Robust Laser if they are doing the crazy gambit I describe below).
Nercania-orccelga: A vaguely unpleasant lurker that hasn’t done much of anything. They claimed to have a role that gives them no influence over their target, which is an easy hide for a scum. Scum!N-o would make sense, but Town!n-o who is frustrated/confused with game state and lurks could also be. I really don’t have much to go off of. Their most recent post almost makes me think they’re a Jester who is just done with the game.
Akumu: Akumu is yet another lurker who posts ~2 times a Day before disappearing. Certainly, their posts offer more to me than n-o’s, but it doesn’t help that someone who clearly has a lot of thoughts about the game is content to offer minimal amounts. A Scum!Akumu would be coasting on the current Robust Laser investigation, feeling no need to involve themself. A Town!Akumu could just be disinterested in the game, which is a vibe I’m getting from many of the less frequent posters. It’s a bit disheartening.
Sunspider: Unlikely to be scum as there’s already a petty thief scum (although there are already many pairs of roles). Also very absent due to trip. When they were here, she gave a positive feeling. But with no new information, I’m not sure what to think.
1 Scum in here:
Mirdini: The suspicion was on Pharmacy, so a Scum!Mirdini wouldn’t have gone wild with the posting and spend 4 hours digging through this game. I don’t agree with their Wine post on Palamedes, but it was very attention-grabbing which is something a scum member typically doesn’t want to do when a potential mislynch is already cued. Scum!Mirdini throwing shade at Palamedes and Sunspider isn’t a very sound move either, as Palamedes is generally accepted as town and Sunspider makes for an easy target when not here. I view Mirdini as a high-skill player, and wouldn’t understand these plays for a Scum!Mirdini. I still think Mirdini is the least likely scum of these three.
Pharmacy: They are being cagey. A Scum!Pharmacy who is too nervous to take action is possible. A Town!Pharmacy who is too nervous to take action is also possible. I’m honestly so exhausted right now with the fact that half of the players aren’t very present. It’s frustrating to me that Pharmacy rolled over when I pressured them, and more frustrating that they were (or claim to be) the busdriver and could have just said that to remove the possibility that one of Town!Robust Laser’s targets was just redirected with a scum member and progress the discussion. A scum!Pharmacy bringing up the possibility of multiple busdrivers might have been a way to cover themselves later if I (or another rolecop) had investigated them and found them to be a busdriver, but a town!Pharmacy might have done the same thing to softclaim a busdriver while giving the information that they didn’t target anyone of the group. I used to think they were the most suspicious because they weren’t offering anything D3, and I want to keep thinking that, but honestly Pharmacy doesn’t seem like a player who has a team chat helping them.
Robust Laser: A Scum!Robust Laser’s plays pan out as a huge, game-winning gamble. His N1 and N2 results are both muddied by including Seedy in them, and N4+ he is exempt due to a claimed Bomb that roleblocks him forever. This makes Scum!RL able to dodge providing Town with info while having a claim on the table. Their role could be completely different, even, as the scum team would know that all other players are unaligned. If Scum!RL is real, his D3 investigation with myself, Mirdini, and Pharmacy would be a great way to get 2-3 mislynches. By the time we got to Robust Laser, town would already have lost 4+ people and with 2-3 scum remaining in 7 people it would basically be mislynch and lose. If scum!RL was true, I’d guess their scum buddies to be Seedy and one of n-o/akumu/Sunspider. I used to think the possibility of this gambit was so slim it was to the point of ridiculousness, but I don’t know what to think. A Town!RL would be so invaluable with their OP 4 person investigation if there was another doctor or someone had a one-use Doc item to cure the bomb.
Vote: Robust Laser
@Seedy: I didn’t choose my N1 or N2 rolecops, because at the time I was AgentBlue. However, I still wouldn’t have investigated CSJ because it was clearly a waste of time, his behaviour D2 and D3 were extremely suspicious and it was obvious he was going to be lynched and town would get his flip. N3 I picked you because I didn’t trust you as much as I should for such an active player and wanted to see what else you were packing. N4 I picked Sunspider to learn more about someone who is often brought up in a negative light without commitment and isn’t really present (although I almost picked n-o, who people also throw shade at all the time). Both of them are possible scum or scum mislynches, making them good choices to learn about.
I didn’t pick Robottobt because I didn’t think it would be worth claiming to verify that they were scum, and I didn’t pick Robust Laser because I didn’t seriously doubt them until now. I have no reason why I didn’t pick Pharmacy.
People keep posting new things and I am feeling just so overwhelmed. I spent hours trying to wrap my head around what’s going on and I can’t. I truly, honestly hope I die so town can take what I say seriously and I don’t have to deal with the sheer amount of information floating around. I feel like I’ve wasted my whole day.
Town
Reyweld
Schazer - The mason counterpart to Solaris, who is confirmed with no counterclaim. Mixmasons is unlikely as Schazer admitted to shooting Solaris, which would be a huge loss for a scum team (who could have direct manipulation over a doctor) and would be stupid to admit when claiming vigilante. So Solaris died N2, which nullifies that point. I think my belief that they’re still definitely town comes down to my belief that mixmasons pairing the only (as far as we know) doctor with someone who could kill them at their earliest convenience and/or manipulate them into protecting the wrong people or other scum would be busted. Schazer’s actions have been very town oriented, and mechanically I have no reason to doubt them.
Palamedes - I can’t see Scum!Pala. Coldblooded had no suspicion on them when Palamedes sprung that oneshot cop item (here), and Coldblooded was also the scum roleblocker, which would be essential in a game with all power roles.
2 Scum in here:
Wheat: Semi-absent due to trip, but provides a lot of opinions without their reasoning behind them. Or maybe I just can’t understand what they’re trying to express when they quote two posts and leave them there. Scum!Wheat would leave me very confused, as I am very sure they are a mailman and I don’t understand how swirling around items chaotically as they have could help scum team. Also, someone said a52 was the same alignment as Wheat when taking redirects into effect, so Wheat’s likely in the clear.
Seedy: Scum!Seedy would be a huge problem for town. They claimed Miller day one, which is a sound play for both a real miller and a skilled scum. However, Seedy was right on top of CSJ, and has been providing using dialogue and lots of opinions. Town!Seedy is far more likely at this point, unless Scum!Robust Laser is a thing (which would make their interaction a way to distance themself from Robust Laser if they are doing the crazy gambit I describe below).
Nercania-orccelga: A vaguely unpleasant lurker that hasn’t done much of anything. They claimed to have a role that gives them no influence over their target, which is an easy hide for a scum. Scum!N-o would make sense, but Town!n-o who is frustrated/confused with game state and lurks could also be. I really don’t have much to go off of. Their most recent post almost makes me think they’re a Jester who is just done with the game.
Akumu: Akumu is yet another lurker who posts ~2 times a Day before disappearing. Certainly, their posts offer more to me than n-o’s, but it doesn’t help that someone who clearly has a lot of thoughts about the game is content to offer minimal amounts. A Scum!Akumu would be coasting on the current Robust Laser investigation, feeling no need to involve themself. A Town!Akumu could just be disinterested in the game, which is a vibe I’m getting from many of the less frequent posters. It’s a bit disheartening.
Sunspider: Unlikely to be scum as there’s already a petty thief scum (although there are already many pairs of roles). Also very absent due to trip. When they were here, she gave a positive feeling. But with no new information, I’m not sure what to think.
1 Scum in here:
Mirdini: The suspicion was on Pharmacy, so a Scum!Mirdini wouldn’t have gone wild with the posting and spend 4 hours digging through this game. I don’t agree with their Wine post on Palamedes, but it was very attention-grabbing which is something a scum member typically doesn’t want to do when a potential mislynch is already cued. Scum!Mirdini throwing shade at Palamedes and Sunspider isn’t a very sound move either, as Palamedes is generally accepted as town and Sunspider makes for an easy target when not here. I view Mirdini as a high-skill player, and wouldn’t understand these plays for a Scum!Mirdini. I still think Mirdini is the least likely scum of these three.
Pharmacy: They are being cagey. A Scum!Pharmacy who is too nervous to take action is possible. A Town!Pharmacy who is too nervous to take action is also possible. I’m honestly so exhausted right now with the fact that half of the players aren’t very present. It’s frustrating to me that Pharmacy rolled over when I pressured them, and more frustrating that they were (or claim to be) the busdriver and could have just said that to remove the possibility that one of Town!Robust Laser’s targets was just redirected with a scum member and progress the discussion. A scum!Pharmacy bringing up the possibility of multiple busdrivers might have been a way to cover themselves later if I (or another rolecop) had investigated them and found them to be a busdriver, but a town!Pharmacy might have done the same thing to softclaim a busdriver while giving the information that they didn’t target anyone of the group. I used to think they were the most suspicious because they weren’t offering anything D3, and I want to keep thinking that, but honestly Pharmacy doesn’t seem like a player who has a team chat helping them.
Robust Laser: A Scum!Robust Laser’s plays pan out as a huge, game-winning gamble. His N1 and N2 results are both muddied by including Seedy in them, and N4+ he is exempt due to a claimed Bomb that roleblocks him forever. This makes Scum!RL able to dodge providing Town with info while having a claim on the table. Their role could be completely different, even, as the scum team would know that all other players are unaligned. If Scum!RL is real, his D3 investigation with myself, Mirdini, and Pharmacy would be a great way to get 2-3 mislynches. By the time we got to Robust Laser, town would already have lost 4+ people and with 2-3 scum remaining in 7 people it would basically be mislynch and lose. If scum!RL was true, I’d guess their scum buddies to be Seedy and one of n-o/akumu/Sunspider. I used to think the possibility of this gambit was so slim it was to the point of ridiculousness, but I don’t know what to think. A Town!RL would be so invaluable with their OP 4 person investigation if there was another doctor or someone had a one-use Doc item to cure the bomb.
Vote: Robust Laser
@Seedy: I didn’t choose my N1 or N2 rolecops, because at the time I was AgentBlue. However, I still wouldn’t have investigated CSJ because it was clearly a waste of time, his behaviour D2 and D3 were extremely suspicious and it was obvious he was going to be lynched and town would get his flip. N3 I picked you because I didn’t trust you as much as I should for such an active player and wanted to see what else you were packing. N4 I picked Sunspider to learn more about someone who is often brought up in a negative light without commitment and isn’t really present (although I almost picked n-o, who people also throw shade at all the time). Both of them are possible scum or scum mislynches, making them good choices to learn about.
I didn’t pick Robottobt because I didn’t think it would be worth claiming to verify that they were scum, and I didn’t pick Robust Laser because I didn’t seriously doubt them until now. I have no reason why I didn’t pick Pharmacy.
People keep posting new things and I am feeling just so overwhelmed. I spent hours trying to wrap my head around what’s going on and I can’t. I truly, honestly hope I die so town can take what I say seriously and I don’t have to deal with the sheer amount of information floating around. I feel like I’ve wasted my whole day.
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