RE: Art of Domination Thread 04
08-15-2017, 10:26 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-15-2017, 10:54 PM by smuchmuch.)
I also think since we're fighting an information war it's not in our best interest to make the more visible monstrous nightmares at least for now.
Eh, it's not like most of these thing wouldn't be too hard 'disguise' by keeping them in containers and vehicles until they are needed.
(Also We already have tumorhide armor over our tanks which is litteraly a layer of tumurous heat resistant flesh. By comparaison, the giant brain on wheel probably look positively pretty. But we can tie a little bow around to make it more presentable :p)---
but thinking about it, we should keep these things hidden, even if jsut for our image, jsut to keep the nemy in the dark about the fact we have author tech too untill ias late as possible..
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The phantom repeater
...sounds very good int heory but is only midly usefull when you think of it.
It's fairly short range make it useless in any open battlefield, it'll be useless and even in sayan urban one, you'd like to ba abal to , say, be able to fire on theother side of a rather large street. Especialy now that our infantry troops have laser rifles, who already a but load of damage to organic things. Also it'd be useless agint robotic drones and author dornes (since they are made of obisidian ?)
And it's comparatively high cost to produce means that even if say we gave only one per bataillon, we'd still come as very expensive in AS (depending on how many AS we can scrounge that may change.)
I think our troops who would profit the more of it tho, would be our stealth team, our mercenaries and spies (particulary talbat, I think) and , on a slightly diferent note, human bataillons.
our Stealth teams are often used to infiltrate building were the ability to fire through walls would be invaluable and often fiind themselves in close quarter. Not to mention it would be /great to deal with biological abomination, Max, another encounter with triple cores and such.
As for our human bataillons and law enforcement, this is more a thing of being good Smith abomination killer, maybe an afficient way to prevent and contain things like bodyjackers paradrop on civilain centers while freeing sonic mechs (our current better option againt Smith biological abominations) for the frontlines.
But while having a couple would be nice, they are really low priority compared to what to the other stuff can buy.
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Cloning Bob and usurper collony might be great for inteligence but the thing is, we kind of have a lot of stealth and spying options already. And seeing as the enemy has stuff like preteders and other psychic powers on it's side too, there is not telling ho well the cloner bobs might work.
If we really must get one of these two, the usurper colony seems the much more usefull and versatile option. But frankly Reynar has those swarm inteligence insect drone project that can do inflitrationa and neutralisation of targets so I'd rather keep our AS for othert things.
UNLESS we get a portal wagon and truth extractor as well. Because /then a very devastating combo appears. Use the portal wagon to create a portal in the middle of an enmy base. abduct an enemy somdier with an usurper colony, extract all their inormation with the information extractor and then send a cloner bob with allt hat information to take it's place.
We could remotely infiltrate any Smith base whose coordinate we have.---- The possibilities are insane.
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The truth extractor is a must tho.
Get information from prisoners without resistance possible or torture involved. Yes, please.
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At least one Abyssal artillery would be good. We are crually lacking in land based atillery among our forces. The closest we have are needlefishes but they are limited by being y'know, submarines, not great to strike deep in land. And the only option to buy any would be the effin billions or one thousands nightmares thing which are both expensive.
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Detector sphere would be a great support for our specialist teams but very expensive so while I'd like to buy one, might as well wait for it
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I'm waiting for the answer to my previous question but if we get enough AS, we MUST get a Void sphere.
Just look at how much use we got from our Reaver gunships, this is basicaly thse same exept armored like a tank and shooting miniture black hole. Seriously it is the ultimate air support/domination/harassement unit.
If there's even a chance we could buy one I want one to attack pioneer.
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I'd like to ask: Is there any limitation on how much/how many people can pass through a portal wagon and how long a portal wagon portal stay open and seeing as a skyshadow can lift entire house, could they lift a portal wagon ? Because if these things can be airlifted by skyshado they are he best choice. Point. it's bsicaly door to deploy/retrat any number of troops ont he planet in a matter of minutes (since the skyshows can go about naywhere int hat time when going at max speed). it's only vulnerability then ould be AA defense but jsut being able to telport our troops en masse about everyhere would trump that by orders of magnitude.
(As far as i understad it doesn't need to be where it creates the portal (just to gave the coordinates) but I figure it's simpler to send the thing near the frontline and have it make portal to or HQ (whose coordinate will alway be fixed)
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I understand and doesn't disagree with this, to be clear.
But ui can't quite shake the feeling that, could this adventure have afforded it, Intruder appearance in itself woud have worked better a little later int he storry as well as a number of events and devellopement and exposition that happened around.. the whole Lagan in the Saramis capital, would have benefited from happening at a slightly slower pace.
Eh, it's not like most of these thing wouldn't be too hard 'disguise' by keeping them in containers and vehicles until they are needed.
(Also We already have tumorhide armor over our tanks which is litteraly a layer of tumurous heat resistant flesh. By comparaison, the giant brain on wheel probably look positively pretty. But we can tie a little bow around to make it more presentable :p)---
but thinking about it, we should keep these things hidden, even if jsut for our image, jsut to keep the nemy in the dark about the fact we have author tech too untill ias late as possible..
-------------------------------------------
The phantom repeater
...sounds very good int heory but is only midly usefull when you think of it.
It's fairly short range make it useless in any open battlefield, it'll be useless and even in sayan urban one, you'd like to ba abal to , say, be able to fire on theother side of a rather large street. Especialy now that our infantry troops have laser rifles, who already a but load of damage to organic things. Also it'd be useless agint robotic drones and author dornes (since they are made of obisidian ?)
And it's comparatively high cost to produce means that even if say we gave only one per bataillon, we'd still come as very expensive in AS (depending on how many AS we can scrounge that may change.)
I think our troops who would profit the more of it tho, would be our stealth team, our mercenaries and spies (particulary talbat, I think) and , on a slightly diferent note, human bataillons.
our Stealth teams are often used to infiltrate building were the ability to fire through walls would be invaluable and often fiind themselves in close quarter. Not to mention it would be /great to deal with biological abomination, Max, another encounter with triple cores and such.
As for our human bataillons and law enforcement, this is more a thing of being good Smith abomination killer, maybe an afficient way to prevent and contain things like bodyjackers paradrop on civilain centers while freeing sonic mechs (our current better option againt Smith biological abominations) for the frontlines.
But while having a couple would be nice, they are really low priority compared to what to the other stuff can buy.
------------
Cloning Bob and usurper collony might be great for inteligence but the thing is, we kind of have a lot of stealth and spying options already. And seeing as the enemy has stuff like preteders and other psychic powers on it's side too, there is not telling ho well the cloner bobs might work.
If we really must get one of these two, the usurper colony seems the much more usefull and versatile option. But frankly Reynar has those swarm inteligence insect drone project that can do inflitrationa and neutralisation of targets so I'd rather keep our AS for othert things.
UNLESS we get a portal wagon and truth extractor as well. Because /then a very devastating combo appears. Use the portal wagon to create a portal in the middle of an enmy base. abduct an enemy somdier with an usurper colony, extract all their inormation with the information extractor and then send a cloner bob with allt hat information to take it's place.
We could remotely infiltrate any Smith base whose coordinate we have.---- The possibilities are insane.
----------------
The truth extractor is a must tho.
Get information from prisoners without resistance possible or torture involved. Yes, please.
---------------
At least one Abyssal artillery would be good. We are crually lacking in land based atillery among our forces. The closest we have are needlefishes but they are limited by being y'know, submarines, not great to strike deep in land. And the only option to buy any would be the effin billions or one thousands nightmares thing which are both expensive.
-------------------------------
Detector sphere would be a great support for our specialist teams but very expensive so while I'd like to buy one, might as well wait for it
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I'm waiting for the answer to my previous question but if we get enough AS, we MUST get a Void sphere.
Just look at how much use we got from our Reaver gunships, this is basicaly thse same exept armored like a tank and shooting miniture black hole. Seriously it is the ultimate air support/domination/harassement unit.
If there's even a chance we could buy one I want one to attack pioneer.
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I'd like to ask: Is there any limitation on how much/how many people can pass through a portal wagon and how long a portal wagon portal stay open and seeing as a skyshadow can lift entire house, could they lift a portal wagon ? Because if these things can be airlifted by skyshado they are he best choice. Point. it's bsicaly door to deploy/retrat any number of troops ont he planet in a matter of minutes (since the skyshows can go about naywhere int hat time when going at max speed). it's only vulnerability then ould be AA defense but jsut being able to telport our troops en masse about everyhere would trump that by orders of magnitude.
(As far as i understad it doesn't need to be where it creates the portal (just to gave the coordinates) but I figure it's simpler to send the thing near the frontline and have it make portal to or HQ (whose coordinate will alway be fixed)
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Quote:@Smuchmuch - Aside from the updates being sparse meaning we need key content more regularly than when the adventure first began, Intruder was dying that entire time which puts a natural rush on things from his perspective. I'm happy to not have someone be "dying" forever as sometimes happens in fiction.
I understand and doesn't disagree with this, to be clear.
But ui can't quite shake the feeling that, could this adventure have afforded it, Intruder appearance in itself woud have worked better a little later int he storry as well as a number of events and devellopement and exposition that happened around.. the whole Lagan in the Saramis capital, would have benefited from happening at a slightly slower pace.