RE: why do we need to study english?
02-14-2017, 03:37 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-14-2017, 04:24 AM by Nopad.)
fuck why you gotta do this to a linguistics minor i'm going to be thinking about this for like a week but not have have the knowledge to actually answer it
Let's see, for me:
For context, I'm a native English speaker from California.
My guess is for me "Keep X" is not a productive rule that you can put new adjectives in but there's specific phrases I've heard that work?
For me at least it's not whether "(it)" can go in between them, since that doesn't seem to be how the syntax tree breaks down for me. If you're telling someone to keep warm, there's no other thing that you want to be warm, you want the listener themself to stay warm.
It also is totally reasonable for -ing verb phrases to generally fit even though adjectives generally don't, I just think that means they're being verb phrases and not being adjective-ish things if that makes sense?
Edit:
Looking on Google NGrams, these definitely seem like things it's attested at least some people have said (besides the ones I say):
It looks like other people are comfortable with more cases of "Keep [adjective]" than I am. At this point, if I had to guess, I'd guess that around the 19th century "Keep [adjective]" was a productive rule that made sense to say with any adjective, meaning and structured like "Stay [adjective]", but that now the only examples of it that work (at least for me) were specific examples that stuck around as idioms?
Let me know if anything I wrote didn't make sense, because I'm sure that's the case haha
Let's see, for me:
For context, I'm a native English speaker from California.
My guess is for me "Keep X" is not a productive rule that you can put new adjectives in but there's specific phrases I've heard that work?
For me at least it's not whether "(it)" can go in between them, since that doesn't seem to be how the syntax tree breaks down for me. If you're telling someone to keep warm, there's no other thing that you want to be warm, you want the listener themself to stay warm.
It also is totally reasonable for -ing verb phrases to generally fit even though adjectives generally don't, I just think that means they're being verb phrases and not being adjective-ish things if that makes sense?
Edit:
Looking on Google NGrams, these definitely seem like things it's attested at least some people have said (besides the ones I say):
It looks like other people are comfortable with more cases of "Keep [adjective]" than I am. At this point, if I had to guess, I'd guess that around the 19th century "Keep [adjective]" was a productive rule that made sense to say with any adjective, meaning and structured like "Stay [adjective]", but that now the only examples of it that work (at least for me) were specific examples that stuck around as idioms?
Let me know if anything I wrote didn't make sense, because I'm sure that's the case haha