RE: Art of Domination Thread 04
10-13-2016, 01:55 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-13-2016, 02:27 AM by smuchmuch.)
(10-12-2016, 11:12 PM)Dragon Fogel Wrote: »My point there was "ask the AIs if there's some way we can speed up the screening for biological agents and stuff". I am in no way downplaying the risks.
Though, now that I think about it, distributing Poisonbane to the refugees once we have it could be a big help. Might not catch everything, but it would be good against a lot of the possibilities.
It'd be nice but with the number of stuff we have to look for increasing everytime we discover a new horror , it just seems unlikely the process could be significantly sped up, short of a really huge breakthrough.
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As for poisonbane well..., it sounds good, kinda too good to be true but I have to ask:
1)The description make it sounds like it stop toxins from spreading in the body, (and since t can protect against pretender worms and pretender spores, that means it can fight infectous agents as well) but how exactly does it recognize what's a 'toxin' and what's not ?
Is it like nano machines pre programmed with 'normal' physiologcal parameters and it neutralize everything that 'isn't supposed to be there'. how does it account for physiologcal differences between species or even speific indivuals ina same species ?
Isn't there a risk it could cause alergies and something akin to autoimmune problems if it eroneously detect something as poisonous (not to mention substances that are poisonous at a certain doses but vital in certain controolled bracket, (... aka 90% of the stuff circulating in your body, really). culd it adapt to a new, yet unknown toxin hene ncoutring it for the first time.
Okay none of these questions are really important per se, I'm just trying to emphasize that given the complexity of what such a thing as perfect 'poison counter' pill involves, the idea that it's going to be develloped in less than a week makes me very very very warry of the actual efficiency, genral compatibility and potential sde effect , even with some very smart AI doing it.
Amusing as it would be (I may have a dark sense of humor), it'd be somewhat embarassing if in the epilogue of the adventure we learn that it turned out that the barely tested hastily devellped nanotech we deployed en masse caused mass cancer and sterility for those who took it. woops
Mind you, with nanotech and cloning and brain transplants is a thing in this setting (that's how the painmechs and crippled woman from barbarosa we're saved) it's not like it'd be that huge a deal (or at least beats dying of poisoning or being turned into a worm puppet) but still...
2)More simply and more relevantly perhaps, assuming it'd develloped without a hitch and works like a charm, just how 'easy', costly and long would it be to mass produce and distribute ?
3)Also, is it like an instant cleansing or does it offer some lasting protection in your system as well ?
Sorta important to ask because since it's in pill form, what if the toxin work faster than a person could put it it their mouth ? (at whiwh point wuld it be possible to swallow it before exposure and hop it'll still be effiient) or what if the toxin is something with continuous exposure ? (like a gas for example)
Maybe see if it could develloped in other forms, like auto injectors a part of the auto medikit we already possess or easy to use aerosol coupled with gas masks and protection suits.
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And finaly beyond the medical aspect, on a more strategic plan, I have to ask, do we really want to speed up the process of screening and integrating refugees into zone 4 and 3 ?
And it's not like we won't have to take Region 5 eventually, and that'll mean sending those people back in region 5 (who even before the braintrees and walking factory was still a conflict riden poisoned wasteland BTW)
(Remember that as per previous repports, everyone in region 5 was dangerous and a combatant of some sort, even women and children, an). With a strong idependent streak and And they have no particular move for the Saramis aliiance (even if they probably hate Smith's troops a lot more now after the braintrees and all), and they wanted to have a territory that reamins of their own.
So not to sound horribly cold here; but maybe rather than letting more people with an history of criminal violence into region 3 in 4, why don't we use all that to our advantage. Let's strnegthen the perimeters, give support and let Freedom organize them and let help with the reconquest of their own region alongside our troops.
And yes, I'm aware arming those that could be future rebels is genral not a good idea but here i beleive there are three elements why it's still a good idea:
1)Even if they are not fond of our eventual conquest of the planet, we're still neatly superior to North genocidial, insane governement, so i hve no doubt they'll side with us for this conflict and even for a while after.
2)Priorities. We have much bigger fishes to fry in region 1. And we need all the help and troops we can get.
I'll glaldy tke te risk of rebels armed by our hands in five years if it let us disrupt region 1 earier and means less new nightmare in two weeks
3)Their number dropped a lot with the braintrees and it'll probably drop a lot more while retaking region 5 so y'know...