RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over!
06-05-2016, 10:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-05-2016, 10:47 PM by Kayriel.)
(06-05-2016, 09:14 PM)adashofpepper Wrote: »alright, so Ive done some thinking, and given light to recent circumstance (i.e Alice fucking roofieing derrick) we really do need to do something.
The dude got raped. It's possible and even pretty likely imo that he will be attacked again. We need to do something to get him out of the situation primarily. all the feel-good let-the-healing-begin-now rhetoric means nothing when the abuse is not actually over. We have a responsibility to Derrick to get him away from Alice.
(05-31-2016, 06:35 PM)Kayriel Wrote: »And that makes US into a monster, perhaps as much as her. Because her crime, while great, was not INTENTIONALLY malicious
she uh, she fucking raped him bro. She got him drunk and took advantage of him. How much more malisious can you get? I'm serious. it's not like she was trying to help him, at all. she wanted to claim what was his for herself.
I'm not really gonna reply to the rest of that page long comment but I feel you didnt really understand the arguments that I was making, like at all. I was never advocating for some sort of angry defensive tirade, just to say we know what she did and maybe ask her not to do it again.
Dash, my original post was not directed at you, nor was it an angry defensive tirade. You need to settle down.
The fact she raped him has no bearing on our mission. Derrick - the real Derrick, knows she did. Attacking Daydream on this point, when we need her help, after she has laid her soul bare, is not only absolutely pointless and accomplishes nothing - helping no one - but costs us a nearly all-powerful ally and hurts the mission. Emily is healing her mind and soul, and when we're able to help, we need to be able to - not hurting her when she already feels guilty and hates herself, just to make you yourself feel better. This story is not about you.
Don't let the fact that rape is horrible cloud your judgement. Also, if you read through the comments, we've concluded that it's not assured Alice drugged Derrick, since the last time he was under the influence and slept, he did not enter the dream realm - meanwhile here he has. We'll find out when he wakes up next and then decide what we should do about Alice.
We have to get these kids out alive, friend. And mentally whole is the hope - as long as it only happened the one time while Derrick was not conscious, his mental and emotional state remains the same. Don't over-focus on something that doesn't change the mission. Daydream/Alice has done worse than this before and we didn't attack her then for what she's done to Emily, or the monstrous things she's done to Lucia. Help us out, please.