RE: diet subforum ideas topic classic
03-21-2016, 10:43 PM
(03-21-2016, 09:24 PM)Wheat Wrote: »you got mad at someone who tried voting but wasn't able to get their absentee ballot in in time, and hounded them til they had an anxiety attack, which is something i'm not okay with
i skipped two classes and drove five hours to vote because i couldn't get my absentee ballot. they were only an hour and a half away, and even without a car i don't think it would have been unreasonable for them to ask their parents to drive them there. they just didn't care that much about voting
(03-21-2016, 09:24 PM)Wheat Wrote: »and no, the demographics among youth voters are simply not enough to outweigh the older generations for whom the word 'socialism' is an evil swear
that's bullshit, he's won states. he won michigan in particular because of young people turning out; it was a huge upset because nobody expected anyone under 30 to vote.
(03-21-2016, 09:24 PM)Wheat Wrote: »the campaign itself started off more as a protest campaign to shift the issues leftwards, which it has been successful in doing! and it's shown that the some portion of the electorate is open to someone who bills themselves with the word 'socialism'.
no. it hasn't.
have you not been paying attention to the debates? clinton will take the party rightwards. she's open about this during the primary
and that "some portion" is about 80% of everyone under 30
which is pretty much everyone that might have shifted leftwards, since cable news more or less pretends sanders doesn't exist
(03-21-2016, 09:24 PM)Wheat Wrote: »i've been saying that it's probably best that people canvassing for sanders use the newfound interest in politics people have been having as a springboard for local political activism, to win downticket races in their community instead of going after the less likely big prize.
most of the local elections where i voted weren't even contested. i don't think there's going to be any change in downticket races, at least not in solidly conservative rural areas (which make up most of the country)
(03-21-2016, 09:24 PM)Wheat Wrote: »economic leftists don't win and generally have not won historically
sanders had a shot until last tuesday.
and it's wrong to say the left generally hasn't won historically when things like minimum wage exist
and unions used to be a thing
(03-21-2016, 09:24 PM)Wheat Wrote: »because not being on the side of powerful institutional interests is, well, something that is a roadblock to winning institutional posts so you have to learn to take it in stride, or else get burned out or blow up
acting like shit's constantly hopeless and defending inaction isn't helpful, at all, so fuck off with that