RE: The Miraculous Manu Memorial Movie Month, Mmmmm!
07-30-2015, 09:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-30-2015, 09:50 AM by ☆ C.H.W.O.K.A ☆.)
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
Quote:[02:17:31] <Chwoka> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT THE SHIT
[02:17:37] <Chwoka> WHAT THE SHIT WAS THAT
[02:17:40] <isoraqathedh> ?
[02:17:41] <Chwoka> THAT WAS AMAZING
[02:17:49] <Chwoka> 2001: a space oddessy, iso
[02:18:02] <isoraqathedh> Oh, that movie?
[02:18:06] <Chwoka> yes!
[02:18:18] <Chwoka> oh my god! what in the fucking world!
[02:18:26] <isoraqathedh> Okay.
[02:18:34] <isoraqathedh> Don't know where that reaction came to be.
[02:18:48] <Chwoka> i just finished watching it
[02:18:57] <Chwoka> and it was... a mindmelter
[02:19:16] <Chwoka> it's like nothing else, ever
[02:20:34] <Chwoka> i mean i knew about the hal 9000 plot which is the most easily-grasped element, and i knew it started with that famous match cut of bone to space ship and ended with a wall of lights then space fetus
[02:20:59] <Chwoka> it's the least economical movie ever made, it seems! and i mean that in both senses of the word
[02:22:17] <Chwoka> a, it luxuriates in drawing out moments for as long as possible, so the beauty of the cinematography and soundtrack and the... the gravity can truly sink in
[02:22:49] <Chwoka> b, it looks so fucking expensive, even when you can tell most of the exterior shots of spaceships are paper cut-outs
[02:24:34] <Chwoka> and they did it all in 1968!
[02:24:42] <Chwoka> no digital ANYTHING
[02:25:18] <Chwoka> and it was fully funded and released by a major studio
[02:25:20] <Sanzh> stanley kubrick goes hard when it comes to film
[02:26:00] <isoraqathedh> It shows how much movie magic has come.
[02:26:18] <isoraqathedh> In fact I think this was part of the argument about how faking the moon landing is impossible, short of going to the moon to film the fake moon landing.
[02:26:27] <isoraqathedh> (on the moon)
[02:28:05] <Chwoka> no, kubrick did a pretty good job, other than missing just how little gravity there was on the moon so everyone just walked around all normal-like
[02:28:22] <Chwoka> more than pretty good. other than the paper cut-outs: totally convincing
[02:28:30] <isoraqathedh> Yeah, but you can still tell it was fake via the paper cut-outs and all.
[02:29:02] <isoraqathedh> Whereas nowadays if it wasn't for the fact that giant robots are not a thing you wouldn't be able to tell what is fake and what is real.
[02:29:16] <Chwoka> only in some shots, there was one landing scene with a full (full-size???) model lander that was utterly convincing
[02:29:39] <Chwoka> i'm not saying the moon landing was faked, because i know for a personal fact it wasn't
[02:29:45] <isoraqathedh> (i.e. if you randomly pluck someone from birth and held him in a cell Truman Show style for twenty years with no input on what is real and what is not, and then you plonked him to that movie, he won't be able to figure out that it was fake.)
[02:29:52] <Chwoka> i'm saying kubrick was a GENIUS
[02:30:09] <isoraqathedh> Yes, I take that.
[02:31:03] <Chwoka> beyond the spectacle, though... the subject matter is so oblique, in a delightful way
[02:32:08] <Chwoka> there's really nothing to say about it because it's kept all as a mystery, other than some murmuring about extraterrestial life
[02:32:37] <Chwoka> all the better to enhance the awe of the spectacle, which might strike some as "cheap," but see above, NOTHING about this movie is cheap
[02:33:58] <Sanzh> chwoka you might enjoy interstellar
[02:34:12] <Sanzh> or 2001 2: electric boogaloo
[02:36:37] <Chwoka> i think the next stop here is the holy mountain, tbh
[02:37:52] <Chwoka> what i expected from 2001 was, like... 5 minutes dawn of man, 10 minutes trippy ending sequence, 95 minutes taut psychological thriller about an astronaut vs. an ai, or something like that
[02:39:19] <Chwoka> and what i got is something with more ambition and more total disregard for comprehensibility than any film i've seen yet instead
[02:40:04] <Chwoka> this is a month i've also seen eraserhead and apocalypse now, mind!
[02:42:13] <Sanzh> hahaha