RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - neferiusNexus - 11-23-2016
(11-23-2016, 02:42 PM)TerraTorment Wrote: » (11-23-2016, 12:26 PM)Panur Wrote: »>Derrick: remember when Lucia comforted you after the freakout in your room, maybe you should remember what bambino said and try to be more sensitive about how other's feel, give her a hug to calm down. Check on Emily and Itamie while you're at it.
just so it's a x combo about hug + hopefully Derrick growing up a bit.
SECONDED EVEN MORE
Derrick needs to get shit done
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N-thing for the love of all that is Holy and Just xO
>Derrick: Ain't no collection of spiders gonna comfort YOUR Lucia. You hug that girl and give the bozo a piece of your mind while you're at it.
Also, all that picture is missing is a blue giant horse-dildo ^^
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - juddy555 - 11-23-2016
>Derrick: Plz giv hugs
>Rest-of-Party: Ask what kind of stuff this guardian does, questions and whatnot.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - tiredandjaded - 11-25-2016
willfordswap au art is here
this is my guilty gay ship bc even a less-terrible alice is still kinda terrible
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - intrepidPioneer - 11-25-2016
Derrick: Take a moment to calm down, then ask the guard if it knows anything you can do about Lethos
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Derrick: Hey Lucia, it's okay...
Derrick: The guard will remain in its confines as long as there are people in here, right?
GGG: ...
GGG: Perhaps.
GGG: I do have a sense of humour.
Lucia: Oh great, spider puns...
GGG: Not quite what I was imagining.
Derrick: To make it very clear, You'll keep to yourself if we ask you to?
GGG: Of course.
Derrick: Okay, good.
Derrick: Do you feel a bit better, Lucia?
Lucia: ... Yes I do.
Lucia: Thanks, Derrick...
Derrick: No problem!
Itamie: What a relief.
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Derrick: Okay GGG, what do you do here?
GGG: I guard this outposts from intruders. Any undesirables are put to trials. If they pass, they're granted entry, if not. A slow death.
GGG: My trials are made so only the Lomam guardians may pass.
GGG: Because you've been granted clearance, my trials can be used for an information outlet if you wish.
Derrick: What are your trials?
GGG: It is only one trial.
Derrick: .....
GGG: You simply must accept a hug from me.
Derrick: ...What?
GGG: Allow my collective spider horde to encapsulate you unflinchingly, and you will prove you really are the Prince of Fear.
Derrick: ........
GGG: Though, seeing as how all my channels have confirmed your clearance throughout Lomam, alternatively you may seek out another guard.
GGG: We all share the same information.
Derrick: That's wonderful, and a relief.
GGG: Heh.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Heyoceama - 11-25-2016
> Derrick: While you're here might as well ask where you can find some shiny things for Ruu. You were told they'd be around here after all. Besides, how bad could a few spiders be?
> Lucia: Leave the room for a bit while Derrick offers the guardian comfort.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - martialAcademic - 11-25-2016
>Derrick: Maybe you should investigate the door.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Kayriel - 11-25-2016
(11-25-2016, 04:46 AM)Heyoceama Wrote: »> Derrick: While you're here might as well ask where you can find some shiny things for Ruu. You were told they'd be around here after all. Besides, how bad could a few spiders be?
> Lucia: Leave the room for a bit while Derrick offers the guardian comfort.
Unseconding asking this guardian anything. The guardian said he must "unflinchingly" accept the hug of all the spiders to prove that he is the Prince. We don't know what the outcome of showing any reaction to all those spiders crawling all over his body would be.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Heyoceama - 11-25-2016
(11-25-2016, 05:30 AM)Kayriel Wrote: » (11-25-2016, 04:46 AM)Heyoceama Wrote: »> Derrick: While you're here might as well ask where you can find some shiny things for Ruu. You were told they'd be around here after all. Besides, how bad could a few spiders be?
> Lucia: Leave the room for a bit while Derrick offers the guardian comfort.
Unseconding asking this guardian anything. The guardian said he must "unflinchingly" accept the hug of all the spiders to prove that he is the Prince. We don't know what the outcome of showing any reaction to all those spiders crawling all over his body would be.
Yes we do. Failing to pass a guardian test means you don't get your question answered or, if you're unverified, death. Since we're already verified this just means we won't get any answers if Derrick freaks out.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - TerraTorment - 11-25-2016
>Lucia: Contact Lexii and Garry and ask them to come over, dont forget to tell them they can get here faster through the fork network, and warn them about the guardian, also, tell them to bring some bcs from the pillar, we'll need it.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Panur - 11-25-2016
(11-25-2016, 08:09 AM)TerraTorment Wrote: »>Lucia: Contact Lexii and Garry and ask them to come over, dont forget to tell them they can get here faster through the fork network, and warn them about the guardian.
seconding and adding:
>Lucia: tell them to bring over some BCS pieces from the pillar so that you can join the outposts
>Derrick: ask if you can be holding onto bambino while the guard does his test.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - ForestGardener - 11-26-2016
Spider hug? Easy! Step one: Read Worm. Step two: Pretend you are Skitter.
Alternatively, have no exposed skin.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Shadowfyst997 - 11-26-2016
Can we make like... A sensory deprivation suit, don the suit, have the hug, and then take the suit off after a set period of time?(I say a set period of time because with all your senses gone, Derrick would have no way of knowing whether the hug happened)
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - TerraTorment - 11-26-2016
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RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - juddy555 - 11-26-2016
>Derrick: Become one with the spiders, come on, you're a big boy, you can take it.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Princezz - 11-26-2016
Alright, since we're going with the spiders:
>Derrick: Try and think about the things you've faced that are more dangerous and terrifying. Compared to that, being covered in a load of spiders should be nothing. And remember, you are in a safe place, surrounded by friends and allies. There really is not that much to fear.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Unclever title - 11-28-2016
>Derrick: Consider the spider hug, not for the purpose of gaining information but for learning how to master your fear. It's a relatively low risk/high fright scenario that makes it excellent for training.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - intrepidPioneer - 11-28-2016
Derrick: Consider the spider hug, not for the purpose of gaining information but for learning how to master your fear. It's a relatively low risk/high fright scenario that makes it excellent for training
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Emily: Hey Lucia?
Emily: I was hoping we could have a little chat.
Lucia: ... What's up?
Emily: Let's talk outside.
Emily: Perhaps it would be easier for you.
Lucia: Yes please...
Reggie: Don't stray too far, ladies. -v-
Emily: Okay, Reggie.
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Emily: Well, I've noticed that... We have still have a difference of opinions.
Lucia: ...
Lucia: I'm not too keen on getting compassionate with monsters, sorry.
Lucia: They are people who have wound up here, and would throw me under the bus at another shot.
Emily: Perhaps, but please understand, that like you, they were once human.
Emily: These aren't another species.
Emily: I treat them like people because I believe in essence, they still are.
Emily: These "monsters" do not know compassion in this world.
Emily: They've been met with kill or be killed.
Emily: Survive or die.
Emily: I want them to know that is not all there is.
Emily: They can live without this terrible choice, or they can choose the opt out altogether.
Emily: Violence is pointless.
Lucia: Sometimes it's the best approach to show you're not to be messed with.
Emily: There are other ways, Lucia.
Lucia: Yeah well, that's up your alley.
Lucia: It's not personal.
Lucia: It's self protection.
Lucia: I'm not actively looking for these things.
Lucia: Unlike you.
Emily: ...?
Emily: What do you mean?
Lucia: I'm not sure why you feel the need to seek out monsters to show them the way.
Lucia: They can't get out unless it's through Derrick or me.
Emily: I seek them out because some monsters cannot reach you.
Emily: Some monsters are probably thinking there is no escape. No release.
Emily: I want to show as many as I can that is not the case.
Lucia: Why? Who gives a shit whether they know or not?
Emily: If it was me, I'd like to know.
Emily: If I was trapped in this land alone and scared, I'd wish for someone or something to give me hope.
Emily: That's all it comes down to.
Emily: Hope for a better future.
Lucia: We don't know if what's beyond is better.
Emily: You're right, which is also why I can show them this land is not all bad.
Lucia: ... I still think it's strange.
Emily: Why?
Lucia: Shouldn't you be more concerned about yourself?
Lucia: What if you find a monster that just would love nothing more than you tear you apart?
Emily: I believe all creatures here have good in them.
Emily: If I can tap into it, I'm sure I can reach them.
Lucia: And if you can't?
Lucia: What if you find one that is so evil, that all they can think about is violence and pain.
Lucia: And your words go unheard.
Emily: ... I simply refuse to believe such a creature exists.
Lucia: But to find one, face to face.
Lucia: How will you deal with it?
Emily: ... I'm not sure.
Lucia: That's dangerous. To not know.
Lucia: That's why I just steer clear, and defend myself if necessary.
Lucia: Forget the rest.
Lucia: If we meet nice ones along the way, yay.
Lucia: If not, no harm to us.
Lucia: So, what's your point?
Emily: My point is to share with you my stance on the matter.
Lucia: It was not news... I knew you were like this since the forest.
Lucia: ... Unless there was something else?
Emily: .... I just don't want you getting in the way.
Lucia: G... Getting in the way?!
Lucia: If a monster gets in my face, the shotgun is coming out.
Lucia: If you want to convince it that Lomam is peaches and cream then do it when I'm not at risk.
Lucia: The nerve!
Emily: I'm sorry if I offended you...
Lucia: You did!
Lucia: It really doesn't matter whether they live or die here.
Lucia: But if one gets a hold of my body? That's it for me.
Lucia: So do whatever you want, I don't really care.
Lucia: Just as long as it doesn't affect me or Derrick.
Lucia: I won't be "Getting in your way" until it concerns my interests.
Emily: Thank you for understanding.
Lucia: I just know this will blow up on you some day.
Lucia: You're naive to think no monster here will not accept your "options".
Lucia: What if you have to fight?
Lucia: Would you fight?
Emily: ....
Emily: I'd try my best not to.
Lucia: I wish you luck then.
Lucia: Is that all?
Emily: ... There is one more thing.
Emily: Do you ever get a particularly strange feeling?
Emily: Maybe you've... felt it at some point or another.
Emily: But it's like... Something isn't right.
Emily: Maybe it's the way you look at others.
Emily: Or yourself in the mirror.
Emily: Something gives it away.
Emily: A crack in glass.
Emily: A chink in armour.
Emily: Something unsettling deep in your mind.
Emily: Something... You can't explain.
Emily: But you ignore it. You pretend that it's just another feeling.
Emily: And when you find yourself alone, or maybe with others too.
Emily: There it is. Like you're not like them.
Emily: You're not like anyone.
Emily: I know it well.
Lucia: Why are you telling me this?
Emily: Because... You have to understand this.
Emily: Someone has to tell you.
Emily: When you look at the reapers, how they come to your call...
Emily: Don't you feel some air of familiarity?
Lucia: ... I do.
Emily: When you're with Derrick.
Emily: Don't you ever feel... sad? or in pain?
Lucia: ... Yes.
Emily: I'm trying to help you realise that deep down.
Emily: You know why.
Emily: From everything you've learned here, You know on some level there is more.
Emily: And what you know now is half truths...
Emily: Or flat out lies.
Emily: I want you to know that no matter what happens...
Emily: I know how you feel...
Emily: I've been there.
Emily: And you're not alone.
Lucia: Ok...
Lucia: Why are you talking like I'm an unstable person, it's weirding me out.
Emily: ...
Emily: I don't think you're unstable, Lucia.
Emily: But I know you're very emotional about things.
Emily: Sometimes, it gets the better of yo--
Lucia: I CAN control myself! Geez!
Ira: Perhaps allow Emily to finish her thoughts, Ms. Lucia.
Ira: You're quick to defend your stability, it's not a good look. =n=
Lucia: Alright, alright...
Lucia: It's just everyone has been saying this and that about me.
Lucia: I just don't understand what they think I've done to make them be so...
Lucia: So cautious...
Ira: Like I've said you're quite capable.
Ira: Powerful.
Ira: Helpful.
Ira: But also, irrational.
Ira: And also hot headed.
Lucia: Ira..!
Ira: I do my best to keep you in line, but you must understand these things make you who you are.
Ira: What Emily speaks about is just objective advice.
Ira: Should you feel alone.
Ira: Remember you are not.
Ira: As things progressed, you've had.. off putting vibes of sorts.
Ira: This is objective truth.
Lucia: I'm not denying that, but...
Lucia: I don't see myself as hot headed or irrational.
Ira: Perhaps in the same way Derrick does not see himself as... "Late to the party".
Lucia: Hehe...
Ira: We only see the good in ourselves, Ms. Lucia.
Ira: Outside advice is necessary to get the whole picture.
Ira: Technically, I am also outside advice. So I can see your flaws just like any other.
Ira: I do not bring attention to them, as they serves no purpose but to belittle you.
Ira: Instead I direct you away from them, having you none the wiser.
Ira: Who knows how many countless mishaps you've saved yourself from simply by taking my advice?
Ira: Not to "Toot my own horn". ou<
Lucia: Maybe...
Emily: Concentrate on Ira.
Emily: And when you see what I've seen. Remember me, and what I've said.
Emily: If anything at all.
Lucia: Okay.
Lucia: But... What have you seen?
Emily: I've seen things... And they were not pretty.
Lucia: What things?
Emily: ... Uhm.
Lucia: ???
Emily: I would love to tell you in great detail, but experience will show you much more clearly than I could explain.
Emily: Just don't forget what I've said.
Lucia: Right, right... You kinda sound like the reapers. Heh.
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Piper: What's on your mind, Emily?
Emily: ...
Emily: I don't think Lucia likes me.
Piper: Don't say that...
Piper: Although you don't see eye to eye, I'm sure she doesn't resent you for it.
Piper: She doesn't even know you.
Emily: Yeah...
Emily: But I want to be on good terms with her.
Piper: Try strengthening your bond through something other than monsters.
Piper: Team work is a good place to start.
Emily: But on what?
Piper: Hmm...
Piper: Maybe something more... recreational and fun!
Piper: Not everything has to be cut and dry y'know.
Emily: Hehe, yeah.
Emily: Thanks, Piper.
Piper: But that's not all that's eating you, is it?
Emily: ... I'm just working damage control.
Emily: From what I'm sensing, Lucia will be leading the destruction of this place.
Emily: She must be fully aware of her actions before then, or we won't be ready.
Emily: Not to mention her situation is precarious at best.
Piper: ...
Piper: She did bring up an interesting point.
Piper: If you bump into a crazy one... Can you take not being able to bring it around?
Emily: I did deal with that black stringy one, remember?
Piper: Lucas said you'd never have to deal with them if he was around.
Piper: I'm talking about you.
Emily: .....
Emily: I don't want to fight anything.
Piper: know, but..!
Emily: Enough, Piper.
Emily: You'll protect me, won't you?
Piper: Of course girl! I'd be all over them.
Piper: But if it came down to you alone... I'm worried.
Piper: You would at least defend yourself, right?
Emily: ....
Emily: That time... When I choked that boy.
Emily: Afterwards, I felt sick.
Emily: I didn't think that kind of thing was something I was capable of.
Emily: After realising it, I'm sure I could kill.
Emily: It... scares me, Piper.
Emily: I don't want to believe it.
Emily: So for now, I will try everything else.
Piper: ... I hear ya.
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Ira: What are you thinking, Ms. Lucia?
Lucia: ...
Ira: Emily seems concerned about you.
Ira: Also, her intentions are pure.
Ira: You seemed defensive.
Lucia: .....
Ira: Do you not like her?
Lucia: It's not that.
Lucia: I just don't understand how she could put herself in such danger for no good reason.
Lucia: If she was after the special exquisite souls, I'd understand.
Lucia: But no, she wants to do it out of the "goodness in her heart".
Lucia: She's passionate, I can respect that.
Lucia: It's just dumb.
Ira: ono"
Ira: You think monsters aren't worth the trouble?
Lucia: Nope!
Ira: What if... You were a monster?
Lucia: Well good news! I'm not.
Lucia: So nothing to worry about.
Ira: =n="...
Ira: Say you were, hypothetically.
Ira: Wouldn't you want to know something good existed?
Ira: When you were wandering around in the dark, weren't you so relieved to find Derrick was here in the dark with you?
Ira: Something good?
Lucia: ........
Lucia: I was happy. Relieved, really.
Ira: Now, imagine these monsters are all you, wandering about in the dark.
Ira: And here comes along a stranger, with news just for them!
Ira: The news being, you are not alone, there is no reason to be afraid anymore...
Ira: You can leave this realm, or visit the other parts that are nicer.
Ira: Free of charge for such a dangerous service.
Lucia: Like I said, Ira... It's dumb.
Lucia: Sure it sounds nice, but she's going to run into trouble and regret it.
Ira: >n>... I don't think it's dumb. It's kind.
Lucia: ..... Wait, what?
Lucia: You say it's not dumb, but I say it is.
Lucia: What does that mean? Aren't we supposed to agree?
Ira: ... It means you're not sure.
Ira: You know what she's doing is right, but you can't understand why she'd risk her life for no gain.
Ira: I think... You refused to believe monsters can come around.
Lucia: Everyone and everything has told us not to trust them.
Lucia: Nothing has changed.
Ira: If you have confidence in me, you really have nothing to worry about.
Lucia: I do.
Lucia: I'll need more time.
Ira: That's reasonable. ouo
Ira: You should spend more time with her.
Lucia: ...Maybe.
Lucia: What do you think she meant when she was talking about me knowing what my off putting feeling was?
Ira: ... I suppose it's linked to your dark spots.
Lucia: There's still stuff I'm not remembering?
Ira: Of course. ono"
Ira: You've forgotten?
Lucia: Yeah, everything's just been going well I suppose.
Lucia: The contract... That's what's left for me, huh?
Ira: Yes. ouo
Ira: Interested?
Lucia: N-no, not yet.
Ira: Take your time.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Princezz - 11-29-2016
>Emily: Perhaps Lucia feels this way because she's spent years here hiding from monsters. Also consider that she feels hurt by a lot of people, and sometimes when people are hurt, they will want to hurt others just because it makes them feel better. Yes, you may have been hurt yourself too, but not everyone takes it the same way. What Lucia really needs right now is more friends she can trust, so maybe try to compromise so you can both still get along.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - TerraTorment - 11-29-2016
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Kayriel - 11-29-2016
I have to say I generally agree with Lucia here. Emily has the right idea but she's TOO hard-headed about it. She's many times the most stubborn member of our crew. And that's not a good thing.
If she's not -prepared- to kill, then when it comes time to do so and there's no other choice, she'll hesitate. And if she's alone, she will die. Maybe the monster will have a spot of good she can get through to, but what if it takes too long? What if there's a certain way or method to get them to pay attention instead of ignoring her to try and claw open her silly flesh and climb in?
She leaves it up to this unsound concept that not only does every being have good in them, but that she can reach them in a situation where her life is on the line. It will backfire at some point, it's the only logical path. If there was some way to safeguard her at all times, to keep the party from harm while working on a monster... I would agree with Emily in a hot second.
Can we make something like that? An item for Emily that prevents her from being attacked/manipulated by monsters while she's speaking with them?
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Heyoceama - 11-29-2016
(11-29-2016, 12:02 PM)Kayriel Wrote: »I have to say I generally agree with Lucia here. Emily has the right idea but she's TOO hard-headed about it. She's many times the most stubborn member of our crew. And that's not a good thing.
If she's not -prepared- to kill, then when it comes time to do so and there's no other choice, she'll hesitate. And if she's alone, she will die. Maybe the monster will have a spot of good she can get through to, but what if it takes too long? What if there's a certain way or method to get them to pay attention instead of ignoring her to try and claw open her silly flesh and climb in?
She leaves it up to this unsound concept that not only does every being have good in them, but that she can reach them in a situation where her life is on the line. It will backfire at some point, it's the only logical path. If there was some way to safeguard her at all times, to keep the party from harm while working on a monster... I would agree with Emily in a hot second.
Can we make something like that? An item for Emily that prevents her from being attacked/manipulated by monsters while she's speaking with them?
In any other situation I'd agree. However, we're in a world that runs on ideas and beliefs. Emily's stubborness grants her power. Theres no real way for us to try to get her to be more cautious and think things through without weakening her.
As for something to make her safer while she stubbornly tries to talk down murderers, Nevil's Facade is close since it turns hostiles to neutral and neutrals to friendly. Once we get it from Lexii we can work it into something for Emily.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - neferiusNexus - 11-29-2016
>Emilly: Use your powers to make an evocative abstract artwork expressing your feelings, right here and now, then gift it to Lucia. Actions speak louder than words.
(11-29-2016, 12:02 PM)Kayriel Wrote: »I have to say I generally agree with Lucia here. Emily has the right idea but she's TOO hard-headed about it. She's many times the most stubborn member of our crew. And that's not a good thing.
If she's not -prepared- to kill, then when it comes time to do so and there's no other choice, she'll hesitate. And if she's alone, she will die.
[..] If there was some way to safeguard her at all times, to keep the party from harm while working on a monster... I would agree with Emily in a hot second.
Can we make something like that? An item for Emily that prevents her from being attacked/manipulated by monsters while she's speaking with them?
Seconding the motion that we should conceptualize such an attractive item, perhaps out of Neville's Visage, but let me just make a quick statement here.
I have long ago, out of very personal reasons made a solemn vow to never kill a person.
Even in extreme circumstances, like forcibly being drafted into war, I intend to uphold this vow, as it is a vital piece of who I am.
So despite being the complete opposite of Emily as far as Religion goes, I identify with her on this, going so far as to believe that her breaking this vow would lead to serious mental instability, even full Lunatic Mode!
So for everyone's sakes, let's try to NOT break this cutie :|
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - TerraTorment - 11-29-2016
>Emily: Emily, this is very important, tomorrow Derrick must kiss Lucia in the construct's waking world to wake her up, failing to do so means Lucia will die. Please help him save Lucia in any way you can.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - neferiusNexus - 11-30-2016
(11-29-2016, 08:01 PM)TerraTorment Wrote: »>Emily: Emily, this is very important, tomorrow Derrick must kiss Lucia in the construct's waking world to wake her up, failing to do so means Lucia will die. Please help him save Lucia in any way you can.
Yea, seconding.
RE: Lucidstuck: It's not over! - Kayriel - 12-01-2016
(11-29-2016, 08:01 PM)TerraTorment Wrote: »>Emily: Emily, this is very important, tomorrow Derrick must kiss Lucia in the construct's waking world to wake her up, failing to do so means Lucia will die. Please help him save Lucia in any way you can.
And even if she wouldn't die it's very important he kiss her soon anyway. That boy is so oblivious.
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