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RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-18-2018
Okay I think *assuming there is no scum redirection except possibly theoretically Pharms* we can engineer Operation Dini Lives To Day 6 (and can thereby give Schaz back their antidote instead of getting shot holding it).
Pharmacy, don’t target me with your bus. *Do* send that special secret item I gave you last night back to me.
Schaz pass me the antidote so I don’t Die Of Poison
If y’all do that I should be alive tomorrow and also be able to handoff the antidote back to Schaz on night 7 to keep them from keeling over.
If Schaz/Pharms are cool with this plan and neither of them is roleblocked by a turkish delight already (nooine but me should, I think I got roleblock-item-nuked by N-O and Akumu both because they were scared of my gun) then I am mechanically a lock for living through the night, I think.
And then i can may e finally get around to using these Poison Blow Darts on Night 7 when we’re down to 3 alive and thus be a Last Chance for town when we otherwise wouldn’t have one?
(Getting the numbers this way: 8 alive right now. We lynch N-O, down to 7. One person is shot in the night, down to 6. Tomorrow wheat desperado’s someone, down to 4. We lynch a player, down to 3 with 1 scum, night starts, I and the mafia get to bang bang, and presumably at that point it’ll be one maf and two super likely town since the mafia will not be able to off both Palamedes and Schazer before night 7)
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-18-2018
Reason handing Schazer the antidote back n7 might be vital bc if say we end up with a final 3 of Schazer/me/scum!Reyweld and Reyweld shoots me and I shoot Reyweld Schaz needs to be antidote’d or the game will end with a LONG UNSEEN
~MAPLEHOOF~
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-18-2018
I think i’m confident enough in this plan that if Schazer and Pharms say they’re cool with it and I turn up dead in the morning Pharms probably didn’t do what she said she would and is scum. I very much realize that this is Risky but... heck, why not give it a shot, if we don’t do this I’m dead anyhow (and a town!Pharms can still bus anyone else anyway so the scum kill could still theoretically backfire on ‘em), and any other variant on schaz giving out the antidote would risk it not making it to Night 7x
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Pharmacy - 07-18-2018
Alright I won't bus you.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Schazer - 07-18-2018
Can't pass the antidote.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Schazer - 07-18-2018
It was consumed when it landed in my inventory and cured my poison.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Acionyx - 07-18-2018
Announcement
So thanks to some behind the scenes screwups on my part the current gamestate is radically different from what it should be currently.
So the question for the playerlist now: Do you want to end the game as is or continue and let the current scenario play out?
If we continue there'll be an extension for however much time deciding takes.
Should give your answers in your quicktopics
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Robust Laser - 07-18-2018
okay so lemme just walk myself through the situation
Quote:Schazer
Wheat
Robust Laser
Reyweld
Nercania-Orccelga
Mirdini
Palamedes
Pharmacy
So we lynch N-O, and they flip scum. We're down to 6 town, 1 maf.
Mirdini dies of poison. 5 town 1 maf.
Maf does a kill. 4 town 1 maf.
And then we've got wheat's kill, which I'm going to right now assume isn't going to successfully hit a mafia, although it'd be nice because then we just win in this situation. anyways, 3 town, 1 maf.
If this is the case then we'd be at mylo, and if people still think i'm maf at this point, we're fucked, because that brings us to 2t 1m and then maf kills off whoever they need to to win. So, uh, if n-o flips maf, i think i'd really prefer it if wheat targeted me with the death, since I'm like, prime suspect and I'd really hate a mislynch on me when it super counts.
If N-O flips town then we have 6 town 2 maf.
Then mirdini dies of poison. 5 town 2 maf.
Then maf gets a kill and it's 4 town 2 maf ! ! !
Then wheat gets a kill and if they don't successfully hit a mafia, we're fucked.
And the big problem here is the mafia probably doesn't kill me so like, let's assume we make it to the final day with 4 town 1 maf because wheat did a good job. Maf won't take me out, I'm too suspicious. It's been made clear that people want me to be lynched next. so.... 4 town 1 maf means a mislynch takes us to 3 town 1 maf and then the maf kill goes 2 town 1 maf so.... does this mean we can afford a mislynch in this situation?
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Robust Laser - 07-18-2018
oh wait what
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Robust Laser - 07-18-2018
also i just realized i math'd wrong on my second walkthrough there and there would be no safe mislynch on the final one because it'd be one town less
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Robust Laser - 07-18-2018
Anyways, even if something is wrong with the information, I guess I'd be curious to see how it plays out?
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - nercania-orccelga - 07-18-2018
hi
yes, I am an item crafter. please don't lynch me.
I've had no control over who I've targeted all game which hasn't been very interesting, hence why I've been so inactive
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Pharmacy - 07-18-2018
sounds rough buddy.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Schazer - 07-18-2018
Your list of created items? Your thoughts on who the final two mafia are, n-o???
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Palamedes - 07-18-2018
@Laser: At 3 town 1 scum town can no lynch fairly safely and be better off for it (depending on who's left alive) but yeah n-o being town would make us want to more carefully consider things.
@Mirdini I don't know why, if scum has multiple targets for item crafting, they'd waste one on one of their own when they could just lie about it? I mean yeah it's possible but I'm more confident in a Reyweld/Pharmacy scumteam or even a Pharmacy/n-o one than that.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Schazer - 07-18-2018
Assuming n-o lynch tonight what's the order of unknowns from most to least suspicious depending on whether n-o flips town or scum?
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-18-2018
(07-18-2018, 01:34 AM)Schazer Wrote: »It was consumed when it landed in my inventory and cured my poison.
rip me, rip my gun, godspeed town
imo if N-O flips scum: Honestly for me it's a tossup between Reyweld & Robust Laser, with Pharms following close behind.
if N-O flips town or 3P: Reyweld/Pharmacy, Reyweld/Palamedes, or Pharmacy/Palamedes Team? Robust Laser/Palamedes? honestly at that point it could be any of those. Would still stay a theoretical scum!Robust Laser's super unlikely to be coaligned with Reyweld/Pharms.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-18-2018
(07-18-2018, 04:40 AM)Palamedes Wrote: »@Mirdini I don't know why, if scum has multiple targets for item crafting, they'd waste one on one of their own when they could just lie about it? I mean yeah it's possible but I'm more confident in a Reyweld/Pharmacy scumteam or even a Pharmacy/n-o one than that.
Since Seedy hadn't claimed and they'd killed/permablocked a ton of town power roles (especially if Laser's also town) I think they would have felt like they had it relatively easy from that point on.
Though that does kinda support a theoretical Pharms scum bc why in the heck did they not bomb the town busdriver, that makes night actions hell for scum.
hrghle
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-18-2018
(07-18-2018, 03:18 AM)nercania-orccelga Wrote: »hi
yes, I am an item crafter. please don't lynch me.
I've had no control over who I've targeted all game which hasn't been very interesting, hence why I've been so inactive
yeah, but what's your win condition :P
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Schazer - 07-18-2018
Oh deens silly request but if you're gonna die could you possibly... give me your gun
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-18-2018
I said ‘rip my gun’ because the Turkish Delight, because it roleblocks (and thus stops item actions), also keeps me from handing any items out.
Also since I can’t get antidote’s also Pharms you should keep the Cool Secret Item I gave you
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Acionyx - 07-18-2018
(07-18-2018, 02:42 AM)Acionyx Wrote: »Announcement
So thanks to some behind the scenes screwups on my part the current gamestate is radically different from what it should be currently.
So the question for the playerlist now: Do you want to end the game as is or continue and let the current scenario play out?
Should give your answers in your quicktopics
Consensus seems to be to continue, but please check in if you haven't
Votes
Nercania: (2) (Schazer, Pharmacy)
Abstaining: (5) ( Wheat, Reyweld, Nercania-Orccelga, Palamedes, Robust Laser, Mirdini)
It takes 5 to lynch, there is no longer a soft lynch. Deadline is July 21st, 11 PM CST ~84 hours from now.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-18-2018
Vote: Nercania-Orccelga in any case
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - nercania-orccelga - 07-18-2018
win condition: town, I win when all the mafia are dead
created items:
n1: glass shield
n2: combat knife
n3: spiked shield
n4: combat knife
I don't know where they went.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-18-2018
(07-18-2018, 07:24 PM)nercania-orccelga Wrote: »win condition: town, I win when all the mafia are dead
created items:
n1: glass shield
n2: combat knife
n3: spiked shield
n4: combat knife
I don't know where they went.
you want me to believe every town item you crafted was either a component or the result of the one useful recipe I posted within the past page @_@
also what did you supposedly make last night, there's been 5 nights so far