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RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Palamedes - 06-04-2014
EBWOP: Donut you seem suspicious, but I still believe you[/joke]
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Sotek - 06-04-2014
pala what I'm saying is that if you and gnauga are both honest then Fogel would have announced this cagey gamestate shit YESTERDAY.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Sotek - 06-04-2014
like, I guess there's no real point hiding it?
Schazer guessed correctly: I am a lover.
To not-pala.
With modfirmation at gamestart that my lover is town.
do the math: if pala and gnauga are both telling the truth, we were in a cagey weirdo mylo state YESTERDAY.
so one of them is lying.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - TehPilot - 06-04-2014
Sotek, I presume your lover situation is mutual and knowing (not one-way?)
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Sotek - 06-04-2014
yes, mutual and knowing. and nobody who hasn't claimed a role should ask questions about it today because I would like to have a chance of keeping said lover secret so that they don't get shot, since I assume Schazer can't protect me AND said lover.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - TehPilot - 06-04-2014
Okay.
Something tells me having a lover pair alive and a survivor explains why town could awaken to neck-deep shit on D9. Lover deaths and survivor siding with scum would spell doom.
To that extent, I have slightly elevated faith in Gnauga's claim. Palamedes might be a lover-searcher role, based on how he apparently found Sotek and that was part of his role. This late in the game with numbers that don't line up to both Pala and Gnagua being honest and survivor plus lovers possibly causing this gamestate...
Vote: Palamedes is what I'm getting out of all of this.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits of Highly Dead People - Dragon Fogel - 06-04-2014
Less Than 12 Hours To Go Votals
Gnauga - 3 (Palamedes, seedy, Sotek)
seedy - 1 (Gnauga)
Palamedes - 2 (icanhasdonut, TehPilot)
With eight alive, it takes five to lynch. There is no more soft lynch.
Deadline is Wednesday, June 4th at 11:59 Mountain time - that's TODAY, at midnight my time, roughly 11.5 hours from now.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Sotek - 06-04-2014
like I said: Exactly one of Pala/Gnauga is scum, the other is telling the truth. uh, maybe unless there's only one scum left? hmmm.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Sotek - 06-04-2014
Fogel: I switched my vote to Gnauga.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Dragon Fogel - 06-04-2014
Fixed that up, that's what I get for updating votals in a rush.
I'll be gone this afternoon, but if people desperately want to ask any mod-questions before settling their votes, I should be back long before deadline.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Palamedes - 06-04-2014
Wait what even the hell?
What even the hell this game.
Sotek you realize that you've basically confirmed that scum should shoot Pilot, seedy, or Akumu right?
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Sotek - 06-04-2014
pala: yeah I know.
and they know who in that set isn't scum.
but uh, this is ok. if we lynch scum today, we're FINE - giant bodypile in the night, followed by some easy town choices?
and if we lynch a survivor-gnauga, we get a less-giant bodypile, followed by more easy town choices.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - icanhasdonut - 06-04-2014
you know if we lynch pala today we get a less giant bodypile followed by more actual info on who's scum and who's not
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Sotek - 06-04-2014
yeah but if gnauga is survivor we're fine to lynch him, if he's scum we're still fine to lynch him.
meanwhile if pala is town I think we might not be fine to lynch *him*.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - TehPilot - 06-04-2014
I also think it's safe to assume we have at least two scum still alive, as I did the math with town, scum, and 3P lynches with 5/2/1 and 6/1/1 town/maf/3P worlds (assuming worst case scenario aka lovers die) and it looks like with 5/2/1 a town lynch would land us in a survivor-aided overrun, while every other scenario in both worlds would only land us in LYLO at worst.
Confirming what Sotek's saying: Gnauga is a safe lynch, Pala's a riskier one.
Either way, we're really only in risk of losing the game in a two-scum world, so I think we're in a world with at least two mafia left. And that world is inherently more dangerous for town.
Unvote
Anyone else want to get a word in edgewise before I tip the scales well towards a Gnauga lynch?
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - TehPilot - 06-04-2014
EBWOP: in the 5/2/1 scum lynch world, the end result should be potential LYLO if survivor helps scum, not potential loss. Same with 6/1/1 town lynch world.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - icanhasdonut - 06-04-2014
hrghsrhgsh fine i'll lynch gnauga today
lynch pala tomorrow when/if I die
does anyone need anything or can me and pilo do the hammer thing
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Gnauga - 06-04-2014
I have one more power role that'll probably be useful tonighttonight. If nothing else, I can eat a night kill instead of schazer/donut/sotek
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - icanhasdonut - 06-04-2014
sure you do
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Gnauga - 06-04-2014
Someone should definitely be able to figure it out, but I'm gonna hope scum don't or it might ruin its usefulness.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Gnauga - 06-04-2014
Slash they might kill me over lovers
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - icanhasdonut - 06-04-2014
don't worry if you're not lying you have a fairly good chance of a halfwin
vote gnauga
will not be on for the night
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Gnauga - 06-04-2014
Okay one specific person should be able to figure it out and why it's probably very useful for the night.
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Palamedes - 06-04-2014
Who is that one specific person and why should they vouch for you?
RE: Murder By The Book - Day 8: The Seven Habits Of Highly Dead People - Gnauga - 06-04-2014
It's more of a "it would be ironic if they didn't figure this out." Saying who might make it too obvious, if it isn't already.
I don't know if they'd publicly vouch for me, but I'm hoping one benefit of the doubt would keep me not lynched. Might be too late for that, though.