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RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-14-2018
There's also still an unaccounted-for scum redirection role (we know this because aC claimed not to have targeted a52 or CSJ on that one night), so it IS possible that all of myself/reyweld/pharmacy are town even if you (RL) are town with that check result.
It is ALSO still possible that BOTH Pharms and Sunspider are scum, and a mafia!Sunspider is going hard on Pharmacy right now so that when she flips as mafia Pharmacy will seem ~super clear~.
And finally while Pharms flipping town "would pretty much guarantee a scum sunspider" it wouldn't be mechanically proven, because we still don't know if maybe the theoretical third party petty thief role could get its item check redirected - if it could, a town!Pharmacy and 3P!Sunspider world could also still be possible
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - seedy - 07-14-2018
:0c poison blowdarts
I wonder if you should even try and use them at night, what with pharms busdriving me with ~someone~ (pharmacy remember to pick someone who you wouldn’t mind dying but who isn’t super obvious (in particular, don’t bus with me schazer))
also wheat it would be NICE to avoid mylo but
if we lynch mafia and 1 town dies it’d likely 2/9 d6
then if we mislynch and there’s a nightkill and mirdini dies...
it’s probably gonna be 2/6 d7
which is mylo
it’d be NICE to just lynch mafia today but...doing that won’t fix our “one step away from mylo” issue
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Reyweld - 07-14-2018
It's also worth noting that because many people have bombs roleblocking them indefinitely(?), a scum!Pharmacy busdriver wouldn't be as strong an asset as a scum!PettyThief.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-14-2018
Oh yeah if they're night-use only I'm not using them tonight, both bc if pharms is town there's the mystery bus + if we lynch sunspider there's presumably still a scum redirection/bussing role running around.
Even if I don't get an antidote on night 6 I'll be able to get a shot off that night though, assuming we've gotten the scum redirection dead then (i.e. akumu turns up dead from poison as a scum driver or something tomorrow morning).
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Pharmacy - 07-14-2018
God are we going to have an vote split between Me and Sunspider. I don't WANT to read ginormous text posts. I don't want another day extension. I don't want wine or flips or poison nonsense or whatever else bullshit there is. Goddamn why when I join a mafia game for the first time in 10000 years, it has to be a slightly bastard one.
Seedy want me to bus you with n-o, cuz they had been on the chop-block for 1000 years.
Also Mirdini if Spoids flips scum, how would there be a slim chance of me being scum.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-14-2018
There would be a slim chance of you being scum because Sunspider could be bussing you so that when she flips scum you look really good. I think it's unlikely, but Sunspider flipping scum doesn't really mechanically confirm you're town.
That being said I don't think we'll have a split lynch between you and Sunspider, since you're still not voting for her and if you did we'd be at 4 votes for Sunspider, 2 votes for you. Unless a bunch more people decide to pile on you the Sunspider lynch is probably happening.
Also you can't say who you're bussing with seedy, because then scum will just target that person and shoot Seedy that way :P
thus Seedy's "pharmacy remember to pick someone who you wouldn’t mind dying but who isn’t super obvious (in particular, don’t bus with me schazer)"
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-14-2018
why not Schaz is because Schazer's already a pretty likely mafia kill target (antidote-holder and all) if seedy is unavailable (due to being bussed), so if you bus seedy with schaz you're liable to get seedy killed accidentally
as opposed to non-accidentally which is what happens when you say who you're bussing with seedy in the thread and mafia know they can just shoot [x person] to actually shoot seedy
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Pharmacy - 07-14-2018
Neato I guess I should keep my thing a sekrit. I'll find someone else.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Pharmacy - 07-14-2018
Ok I got an idea.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-14-2018
also pharms you might wanna vote for Sunspider bc currently the votals look like
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Votes
Sunspider: (3) (Reyweld, Mirdini, Seedy)
Akumu: (2) (Palamedes, Wheat)
Pharmacy: (2) (Sunspider, Robust Laser)
Reyweld: (1) (Akumu)
Nercania: (1) (Schazer)
Abstaining: (2) (nercania-orccelga, pharmacy)
6 to Hard Lynch, 3 to Soft Lynch, deadline is 10:30 PM CST, July 14th, ~9 hours from now
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and one person joining your or Akumu's wagon would tie that one up with Sunspider's right now :X
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Pharmacy - 07-14-2018
hhhh fine Vote Sunspider
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Pharmacy - 07-14-2018
My first vote in centuries (days), how joyous.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Pharmacy - 07-14-2018
I thought Akumu was a flavorcop? Plus if Akumu was indeed a scum busdriver, we could handle it because I am also a town (or 3p according to some theories) busdriver, so his redirecting would be less potent.
It would make tonight certainly chaotic though. Bc uh. Busdrivers.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-14-2018
Akumu hasn't claimed, and wheat's point is that seedy won't be able to trust her investigation 100% if he is a scum busdriver. Which is a fair point!
There's been no flavor cop claim yet, only a role cop claim (Reyweld). Idk how flavor cop would make any sense in this setup, considering the flavor's been almost nonexistent.
Anyway as I've been arguing again and again and again and I'm done making the argument for a dog who will never listen to me a scum thief being able to act tonight is a lot worse than a scum busdriver being able to act tonight, and that was before someone made the point that a scum busdriver is even less useful than usual because at least several living townies with power roles are currently permablocked by bombs.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-14-2018
jesus christ dog just lynch me and watch me flip town and regret your words and deeds like you did with CB's lynch, and CSJ's lynch, and
(07-14-2018, 07:02 PM)Wheat Wrote: »*A small second head comes forth from the dog's maw.*
[Color=red]Youuuuu infant. Youuuu slime.
1) What sort of town reason do you have to create a poison dart gun?
2) Why would you pick to mix poison and a gun?
3)why do you have a blow gun in the first place?
4)What other items have you produced, and who have you blocked?
1. Because town having a vig kill is a good thing, generally
2. Because I wanted a vig kill
3. Because I got given them on Night 3
4. I HAVE LISTED BOTH OF THESE THINGS ALREADY
(07-08-2018, 12:23 PM)Mirdini Wrote: »as for said combining results, as the combinator database entry suggests I get to have one successful combination per day cycle, and here's how I used them:
D1: Nothing, because I had no other items.
D2: Nothing, because I had no other items.
D3: I attempted to combine my TELESCOPE with the TOILET PAPER TUBE pharms gave me, but the items did not combine successfully (meaning essentially nothing happened, I got the items back and the combinator was still active but since I had no other items to combine, no combination that day).
D4: I combined my TINFOIL with my FEDORA to make a TINFOIL HAT, which honestly reading the description and knowing that the BONE is also a joke item I'm pretty convinced is a joke item to make people paranoid about a role-stealing role that doesn't actually exist.
D5: I thought I had so far not managed to combine a thing successfully but on checking my QT to write this list up it turns out I have COMBINED A THING WITH A THING that I will reveal when the item actually gets entered into the database (or before dayend, whichever comes first). Apparently it was such an obvious combination yet it hadn't been foreseen by the mod so it has been "bugfixed" into the game. I also don't exactly know what it does yet but I have a Pretty Good Idea and It Is Most Likely Spicy.
(the thing with a thing being poison with blow darts)
(07-01-2018, 08:52 AM)Mirdini Wrote: »and yeah it was me that blocked your Pog-giving the other night Seedy,
Last night I blocked robottobt
(07-01-2018, 08:55 AM)Mirdini Wrote: »anyhow that's all the info I have, on night one I blocked Palamedes, who can probably also confirm that.
(07-14-2018, 07:02 PM)Wheat Wrote: »There is no accounting for any more roleblockers that would be targeting me, the primordial spirit inside the dog, as the claimed roles do not allow for any more, unless you can figure out something else. (There is a scum mailperson or third town mailperson mixing up inventories, since thats still been happening with me blocked. There is at least one driver.) Therefore, you must be the one coming up with these things.
???? yeah someone is lying about being the Bad!itemsmith, but it could be Nercania-Orccelga, or Robust Laser, or even Akumu??
(07-14-2018, 07:02 PM)Wheat Wrote: »It would help town to be forthright answering these questions. If you do not, and you have not died of poison (which I believe you are not poisoned but want to hog the antidote for oneself), I shall use my unblockable oneshot on you tomorrow during the day.
I got poisoned LAST NIGHT, which means that the poison isn't going to kill me until the start of Day 7! Please if you are going to SUPER ONESHOT MURDER me or something do it on Day 7, if I'm still alive, because I'd like to *use* these poison blow darts to shoot scum.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-14-2018
that's why I am waiting for the scum driver to be dead to shoot someone my amigo
and I don't think there are any 'scum mailfolk', because scum has had ~one to two thieves~
what unaccounted mailperson exists? If you know about an "unaccounted mailfolk" let me know because all the mailfolk I'm aware of is you and the already-dead Cat?
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-14-2018
Like, the remaining scum being bad!itempal + thief + redirector/busdriver seems entirely possible to me?
Also it may still be possible that the items are a anti-town third party, though I think that's far less likely.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-15-2018
(07-15-2018, 12:23 AM)Wheat Wrote: »[Color=red]I recall at least one person claiming on d3 or d4 that their inventory had been swapped besides, a night dog had been blocked and cat was either dead or bomb blocked.
Cat was alive on d3 and unless you privately messaged with her and have info not contained in her posts she never claimed being bomb blocked?
and I don't recall anyone saying they'd been stolen from/were missing items from that point onwards :X
will go check
also, weren't you unblocked for night 3? IIRC bombs only started appearing on D4, and while I vaguely remember you were taffy'd D3 I don't think you were actually straight-up blocked?
@wheat What was your action that night, bc item movement claims for D4 might also have been a result of your action in that case
@Seedy did claim an item went missing on the start of Day 4 (i.e. it went missing on night 3), but that sounds more like the work of a thief than a scum mailman, since she would have had to have also gained an item in that case?
@Seedy, did you only lose one item Night 3 or did your inventory get swapped around? How likely is it a mail role did that?
oh ok a52 did post a thing, that does suggest scum have an inventory-swapperoonie role
(06-27-2018, 09:27 AM)a52 Wrote: »My inventory (which had lots of useful, game-relevant stuff) was replaced with a bunch of junk, most of which likely has little-to-no use. Some of it is food, which may be poisoned.
so.... N-O for scum mailperson?
in which case yeah ok you're probably right on Spoids
Vote: Nercania-Orccelga
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-15-2018
WE'RE TURNING THIS LYNCH AROUND FOLKS
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-15-2018
(unless wheat realizes they actually targeted a52 as well as other folks on night 3, in which case we don't do that)
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-15-2018
if we're right on spoids then pharms being scum also shoots up though ahhhhhhhh barf
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Pharmacy - 07-15-2018
Spoids being what, scum.
Are we bussing n-o this time.
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-15-2018
notably at the same time that a52 lost a bunch of items and got their inventory filled with poison etc. reyweld might've been the one swapped with him?
(06-27-2018, 02:09 PM)Reyweld Wrote: »In other news, I just got a ridiculous number of vague items.
for whatever that's worth
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-15-2018
Right re: sunspider actually being a third party thief because wheat is right that we're pretty sure there's a scum redirector, pretty sure there's a scum poison/bomb crafter, and pretty sure there's a scum item-swapping role now as well which if there's 3 scum left would not leave room for a scum thief
blarg
RE: Nostalgfia Day 5 - Flies like an arrow - Mirdini - 07-15-2018
wait no lol Vote: Sunspider
Cat was still alive on the night a52 lost all his items, so it's entirely possible she swapped a52 and Reyweld's inventories