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RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Myeth - 10-24-2018
Also puttin all my coins on the gum
gimme
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reecer6 - 10-24-2018
(10-24-2018, 09:41 PM)Wheat Wrote: »So, Schazer isn't town, right. Like, did anyone read the text of the roleflip that said that their ability is to make roleflips that may not actually be accurate, something that can only be anti-town, and that their role itself can do that?
counterargument 1: explicitly states it doesn't make inaccurate roleflips. i think it only works for the sake of, say, rolecops. it'd be against the nature of the role anyway; that's basically just janitoring with a side of extra confusion.
counterargument 2: there is a reason to do so and that's because it's fun.
counterargument 3: if you were to disguise your role, why would you disguise it as something with the exact same ability to disguise your role that you already have?
schaz is about as likely to be scum as anyone else who has died. which, granted, is entirely possible, but unlikely.
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reecer6 - 10-24-2018
also i'm like 80% sure sunspider isn't a cultist. the relevant part of the role is CultistJailerCopDoctorBlocker, which is all one whole word in the role. this reads to me like a roleblocker (final word) that specifically targets cultists, jailers, cops, and doctors (all the words before that). see: sol being a HatedDayMillerCultist, and is neither hated nor a daymiller (well i mean, intrinsically. in effect they are because they curse night 0 but SHUT UP). in fact, they're not even really a cultist really. i feel like the interpretation of an "x cultist" here is "chooses someone to be x". no implication of communication or wincon-changing or anything.
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Schazer - 10-24-2018
if it makes y'alll feel any better here's the roles I invented:
N1: Anti-CelebritySmith CelebritySmith Anti-Celebrity Celebrity Smith
N2: Anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-obliterator
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Schazer - 10-24-2018
I don't actually know how disclosing this information makes my alignment any clearer but I don't actually give a rat's ass I'm just here to have fun
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reecer6 - 10-24-2018
the ability of the anti-celebritysmith celebritysmith anti-celebrity celebrity smith is that they must target themselves every night in order to ignore their implicit ideological inconsistency and internalize their intense self-hatred or else they stump.
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reecer6 - 10-24-2018
okay but the role as it stands also says you only control the name of the role, so when it flips, you'd just be hoping reyweld interprets it right. unless you're implying schazer's original role allows for the crafting of the entire role including flavor and mechanics and just modified that as well, in addition to changing what presumably said "you target a certain person and the effect lasts forever" to "affects anyone that single night" and wow this is a fourth dimensional chess game you're proposing
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reecer6 - 10-24-2018
this would be the part where i do a gambit where i say "i can investigate roles and i did and i totally got schazer's made up role as it is claimed night 1" just because i trust them enough and think this argument is so unbelievable buuut i'm not that stubborn
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reecer6 - 10-24-2018
i would absolutely craft up a role but i think sunspider's doctoring earlier was actually just the result of using the item they got from you when you died? actually hold on what items did you even pass out, that information would be nice
also i think robust might also be testifying that they have the same role
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reecer6 - 10-24-2018
ye
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Mirdini - 10-24-2018
I’m going to have a nap after that desperado excitement, would like to hear from Seedy while I slumber re: if she’s scum bc her occasionally poking at mechanics from the sidelines feels Suspicious
(what’s your Read On The Game, Seedy)
re: wheataldrin’s theorizing/suspicions I’m gonna mostly ignore bc as the child has pointed out, their midgame suspicions are way off (and they are, at the very least wrt the idea of PAUL, FROM SALES being non-town)
PAUL, FROM SALES out
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reecer6 - 10-24-2018
(10-24-2018, 11:42 PM)Wheat Wrote: »Is it anything confirmable?
nah
(10-24-2018, 11:43 PM)Mirdini Wrote: »the child
hey, i'm at least 18!
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - LegendaryQ - 10-24-2018
Myeth, who do you want dead? I'm assuming your remaining 4 pawns are folks you want to live, seeing as it sounds like them not being dead is a positive outcome to your wincon.
...honestly, at this point I need to reread today. I am completely lost.
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Robust Laser - 10-24-2018
(10-24-2018, 11:29 PM)Reecer6 Wrote: »i would absolutely craft up a role but i think sunspider's doctoring earlier was actually just the result of using the item they got from you when you died? actually hold on what items did you even pass out, that information would be nice
also i think robust might also be testifying that they have the same role
Nah. I've more or less claimed my whole role over time. I'm just claiming here that part of my role is the same. We used some of the same Lego blocks.
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reecer6 - 10-25-2018
okay that's a completely fair argument honestly but i'm also hung up on the fact that they're specifically a benign 3rd party, and have been colored blue. i feel like i should trust a third party that is blue?
i only kept my vote on myeth because i knew it wasn't going to go through at that point, in addition to getting a deadly premonition about a52. a deadly premonition that was KIND OF RIGHT MAYBE
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Numbers - 10-25-2018
I think that it could go either way, because the grammar(?) of CultistJailerCopDoctorBlocker is ambiguous. It could be a JailerCopDoctorBlocker and a Cultist, or a JailerCopDoctorBlocker of a Cultist. Lordlyhour, can I have your take on the meaning of Sunspider's role? And anyone else who hasn't already said, for that manner.
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - LegendaryQ - 10-25-2018
Alright:
So I subscribe to the theory that a52 is a mimic (as others have suspected), but it's interesting because while the "Diseased" condition appeared on both players, Palamedes was a Spezier "cult" member, and a52 got one of Myeth's roles. Interestingly, the "Arlene" role seems to have originally been Palamedes's, but seems to have moved to Dini? Maybe? This is kind of guessing on my end based on some Myeth posts.
I also subscribe to Wheat's theory that Sunspider is a Cultist and a Blocker as opposed to a CultistBlocker-- they're seemingly not in a position to lie, and the past evidence of Sunspider's soft-claims is solid.
All that being said, it makes no sense to me to lynch Sunspider. Since RechargingTanker means that they're likely to have at least one extra life right now (with presumably more if they aren't hit with multiple kills at once), and Beloved-Princess really not helping, I'm somewhat open to the idea of not going after them immediately if there seem to be more pertinent threats if only because the resources required to off them seem obnoxious. I'm guessing Sunspider's Survivor claim is a half-truth, and that they need to survive for some other condition to happen.
As an aside, are there like a billion marker-esque third parties and extra lives in this game??? We've got the Spezi thing, Solaris's curse thing, Sunspider's possible cult, the Diseased condition, Myeth's cast of Garfield characters, the stumps thing...
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reyweld - 10-25-2018
Gosh I'm making a lot of mistakes today.
MOD CORRECTION: Schazer was actually supposed to die. I am changing the Mirdini Post Right Now, but no new information is there apart from Schazer being dead.
I am so sorry for this, and if desired, I can extend the day to be longer.
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Robust Laser - 10-25-2018
Oh :(
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (17/22 live) - Reyweld - 10-25-2018
Yeah, I donked that one up.
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - Reyweld - 10-25-2018
Votals, Because Mirdini's Worth it
Seedy (1) - Mirdini
Abstaining (16) - Reecer6, Robust Laser, Thalia V1, dunnergy, Numbers, LegendaryQ, Justice Watch, Myeth, awkwardcarapace, Lordlyhour, amosmyn, , ProfessorLizzard, Seedy, Sunspider, Tehpilot.
BbbbbbbbbbBids
A. Fuzzy Dice - 2 coins - Sunspider
B. Nerf gun - 6 coins - Amosmyn
C. Suspicious Medal - 2 coins - Robust Laser
E. Minty Fresh Gum - 2 coins - Myeth
F. Granola Bar - 1 coin - Sunspider
G. Energy Drink - 2 coins - Reecer6
With 18 votes present, it takes 5 to soft lynch and 10 to hard lynch. Day ends in 63 hours (27th October, 2:30 pm EST).
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - LegendaryQ - 10-25-2018
(10-25-2018, 03:00 AM)Wheat Wrote: »(10-25-2018, 02:15 AM)LegendaryQ Wrote: »Myeth's cast of Garfield characters, the stumps thing...
Myeth claimed to be town, and that their characters are simply people that they selected to be able to do specific night actions on (shove odie [a52], Jon gets information [me, despite being a stump!!])
Coulda swore there was a 3rd party softclaim at some point, but I think that was me playing off internal thoughts about how Myeth's "pawns" benefit them -- but I see how that could be a misinterpretation and a town interpretation would be "my role is most useful when my pawns are alive because my abilities only work on them if they're alive." Either/or, I can't find any evidence of any 3rd party softclaim after rechecking, so I can't dispute this.
Regardless, Palamedes's Wheatlynch copping applies to Myeth, so either they're a Miller or something more interesting is going on there, buuuuut that's not really enough to justify much at this time.
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (18/22 live) - seedy - 10-25-2018
mirdini I think I’m being rather unsubtle at this point, but my interest in the mechanics of all the marker roles is mostly to figure out where the balance with 3p roles is. there’s a LOT of markers so far, however none of them can *easily* joint with scum (Thalia is closest but that situation would be a stretch) so it doesn’t matter that much. it is very possible we’ll have 3p fakeclaims so I wanna get a grip on what’s going on with them
I’m curious as to Sunspider’s actual wincon because survivors can traditionally joint with scum
I dunno about suspicions, I honestly only remembered earlier that we should actually lynch someone instead of standing around in mute awe at all the roles
Numbers is definitely eh, that bit about “being suspicious” of the lynches felt phoned in. but I usually find numbers odd
RL’s thing about wanting items from the wheat and being offended that anyone would question that feels odd for 3p play (this is a clusterfuck, but still)
I feel like despite the flips we’re still somehow in d1, but I guess I have wheat and a52 to blame for that
I have to agree with wheat that you don’t look great with that kill...I know we all love crook’s hollow (or at least, solaris did) but shooting town is s bad look
hmm
when I cut out the 3p claims and people who give me an Honesty vibe this is the list I get
Mirdini, Numbers, LegendaryQ, Justice Watch, awkwardcarapace, amosmyn, Tehpilot.
thinking about it further I feel like a scumbers might not be SO confused about easy mislynch a52...I’d love it if awkwardcarapace talked but you can lead a horse to the noose but you can’t make it play mafia. I’ll settle for a vote: LegendaryQ since after reviewing it there’s something odd to me about the amount they seem to be Trying but still not voting
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (17/22 live) - seedy - 10-25-2018
*a
RE: Buzzfia - The Blood Moon Rises - Day 3 (17/22 live) - Mirdini - 10-25-2018
PAUL, FROM SALES, steps up to the projector area of the complex, turns it on, first slide:
WHY I DID THE THING
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It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a man in possession of a good daykill, must be in want of a target.
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When casting my gaze across YE LISTE OF PLAYERS I settled on Schaz mostly because they hadn't posted at all for 2 days and were well and truly in The Lurker Zone, so a solid 50/50 chance of being scum or town in my book. I didn't post seeking answers from them because well, they hadn't posted at all since the game started and I wasn't expecting a response if I did
And as they were solidly in The Lurker Zone I figured that either we'd have to vig or lynch them at some point anyway (if my daykill killed them), or they would survive the daykill and perhaps be spurred into actually posting and doing things by losing a life.
Turns out both were true! Which is a shame, because active schaz is fun to mafia with.
and I mean sure, it's theoretically possible Schaz would've picked up in activity on some later day, but I had a daykill today and I felt it'd me more productive to Solve that slot than have people go 'what about this slot' for another couple days.
I'm not going to lie the ersatz granola motivation was Real, too.
Seedy's response is good and pretty much what I'd expect from a town or a scum seedy which, doesn't actually help my being worried about scum!seedy much but is probably enough that I don't wanna lynch her today unvote
before I cast my next vote, I'd like to hear from Wheat as to who they think we should actually *lynch* today, because at least from what I can remember of their posts they've just been busy peddling a schaz-dini conspiracy theory and also a side Sunspider conspiracy theory (that one could actually be true, but judging from the conspiracy theory track record this game so far I'm not convinced).
Reecer6: the child reference was about wheat, whose role is that they are the CEO's child, because they themselves mentioned that they are Garbage At The Midgame in an earlier post