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RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Granolaman - 08-28-2018
Hey TehPilot, how do you feel about Schazer?
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - awkwardcarapace - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 02:19 AM)BlazerC Wrote: »Continuing on: It feels like some people just aren't reading my damn posts or they're just not understanding them. Perhaps on purpose.
The way this reads to me - "people are conspiring against me" - reminds me vaguely of one of RL's early posts - both of which irked me.
(08-22-2018, 06:36 AM)Robust Laser Wrote: »anyways the main thing i'm taking away from this day so far is that i still don't believe in relying too hard on day 1 shenanigans for tells but i'm 90% certain everybody is scum and i'm the only town here.
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(08-28-2018, 02:19 AM)BlazerC Wrote: »Eitherway, I'm going to clear this up once and for all: I've just been trying to get stuff happening, okay? A lazy town is about the same as a dead town.
I'm wondering if somehow this is a justification for picking on lurkers for easy lynches.
(08-28-2018, 02:19 AM)BlazerC Wrote: »anyway anyway, aC is continuing to rub me the wrong way.
(08-27-2018, 06:00 PM)awkwardcarapace Wrote: »I guess it's because in my eyes you have some things going for you (Q vote, against BlazerC) but also stuff against you (Jacq+Acio, vote flipping, sparse posts) which kind of cancel out to leave a general "ehhh" feeling??
what are you a jester?
Blease explain how this makes me a jester?
(08-28-2018, 02:19 AM)BlazerC Wrote: »Why is voting for Q a good thing? They were un-aligned with the mafia.
And for that point, why is being against me (Blazer) a good thing for Solaris when you just said that I am kinda townish?
And Q is also un-aligned with town? I always tend to treat third-parties as wild cards that can hit both scum and town, and because town greatly outnumbers scum in mafia games it's way more likely that they'll do more harm than good.
I'm actually pretty glad that we got a third-party out this early in the game? We didn't get much information from the lynch (because third-party lynches tend to be more "neutral" if anything), which could be pretty disastrous in late game.
(08-28-2018, 02:19 AM)BlazerC Wrote: »What is your logic? Can you just not decide between "Blazer is in-fighting town" or "Blazer is dumb scum"?
Yea! And I'm not the only one!
As for why I've got you as a "town" read but with an asterisk, I'd like to clarify that status by instead explaining that I've got you as a "superposition between the scum and town camps, constantly flickering between the two". I'll say, though, that I'm leaning more towards scum now.
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - TehPilot - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 03:20 AM)Granolaman Wrote: »Hey TehPilot, how do you feel about Schazer?
If I could, I'd give them
(08-28-2018, 03:03 AM)TehPilot Wrote: »The Boot.
(I do not read them in a favorable light. Claims and reads without elaboration, which I don't agree with in junction with their D1 performance. Still better than D1 so far, which is why I'm opting into other avenues while there's daylight to burn. Even then, roughly my third lynch priority at the moment.)
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Not The Author - 08-28-2018
(08-27-2018, 01:02 PM)Jacquerel Wrote: »Also Dini I love you and I guess it will get easier as more people die but please love yourself wrt writing flavour in people’s quicktopics that a lot of people won’t bother to read after the game except the people you wrote it for ; -,only scum doesn't appreciate good writing, vote- kidding, kidding. Time for that's passed.
Based on D2 so far, I read neither BlazerC and awkwardCarapace confrontation to stem mostly from miscommunication and frustration, rather than Levied Intent. Blazer seems invested in asking questions, AC seems invested in answering them, and both of those things Feel Good to me. Neither of their approaches to these things have felt good, but I'm not sure how much stock to put into that. I will say I don't much care for AC's "people who dislike Blazer are (some degree of) cool in my book" thing what's going on, and would be more inclined to believe they're scum than Blazer... but... I'm still not sure if--
oh hey! AC posted while I was typing this and needled Blazer on points where I can readily relate to Blazer on. I'd give it a 70% chance I'll regret this later, but!
VOTE: awkwardCarapace
Okay! That out of the way, in the interest of getting Literally Anything Else Done Today, here's some callouts!
@Schazer, still wondering about that cryptic The Boot mention from daystart. Also, in the interest of sating my paranoia: however improbable we both think it, the possibility exists that AC and BC are engaging in some kinda galaxy-brain gambit, wherein both are scum trying to ensure one survives by shining a light on how un-aligned they are. Now, it's super-implausible and probably a figment of my overactive imagination, but could you elaborate on why you're confident that's not happening? or, more critically: Why could specifically Blazer be scum, but not AC?
@Slorange, @TehPilot, @Sai: life's a whirlwind, I know. Just let us know yr still around, yeah? here's a "fun" and "valuable" question for you, when you arrive: what're your reads on each other
More seriously, while we're on the subject:
@BlazerC, on D1 you suggested Pharms and Sai might be aligned (#202 - #204). I know we don't have anything yet from today to go off of, and, honestly? Sai didn't give us a lot to work with on D1. However, now that Pharms' flipped Scum: do you stand by that assertion? Is Sai plausibly Scum?
[/b]@Numbers[b], to cap things off: Palamedes and Coldblooded both strike me as experienced players with particular ideas about how things Ought to go. Palamedes seems more annoyed(?) that they're Not Going Like That, while Coldblooded seems more confused. No read as yet, though my gremlin brain tends to turn "no read, but is keeping things moving" into "plausible townie," so. grains of salt, and all that.
Oh, and while I'm here: to the best of my knowledge, I don't have a typing quirk. Taking on a persona helps me break out of my shell, sometimes, and there's plenty of people here who can tell you how Getting Me To Write Shit is a Sisyphean feat. Anything I can do to get myself to get up and out there is a win in my book, however snooty and non-helpful I may end up as a result. my bad.
Anyone else got questions for me? I tend to work better with a framework to build from.
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Solaris - 08-28-2018
tehpilot who's #2 if schazer is third and also really interesting that you massively focused on me and less on other things? is "im scummy" the only thing you have from all of yesterday and today given that you made three posts on day one, one of which was a joke another was interestingly a response to just sai and the last being you voting for Q under the justification of getting information but interestingly not mentioning if you're actually suspicious or not?
Vote: tehPilot
in other news
i kind of understand where seedy's coming from and am willing to support a schazer lynch but if schazer flips scum then seedy like, definitely is turbobussing is my imo as much as i do legit read seedy as town right now!
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Acionyx - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 03:25 AM)awkwardcarapace Wrote: »(08-28-2018, 02:19 AM)BlazerC Wrote: »Why is voting for Q a good thing? They were un-aligned with the mafia.
And for that point, why is being against me (Blazer) a good thing for Solaris when you just said that I am kinda townish?
And Q is also un-aligned with town? I always tend to treat third-parties as wild cards that can hit both scum and town, and because town greatly outnumbers scum in mafia games it's way more likely that they'll do more harm than good.
I'm actually pretty glad that we got a third-party out this early in the game? We didn't get much information from the lynch (because third-party lynches tend to be more "neutral" if anything), which could be pretty disastrous in late game.
No the lynch is equivalent to a town one because Q never claimed third party so scum didn't have any knowledge that he wasn't town to act differently upon.
You should answer the second half of his question btw
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Acionyx - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 03:44 AM)Not The Author Wrote: »Anyone else got questions for me? I tend to work better with a framework to build from.
Yeah:
(08-28-2018, 03:44 AM)Not The Author Wrote: »I know we don't have anything yet from today to go off of, and, honestly? Sai didn't give us a lot to work with on D1.
Why do you say this?
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - BlazerC - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 03:25 AM)awkwardcarapace Wrote: »Blease explain how this makes me a jester?
because your reasoning is contradicting itself and it's garbage
(08-28-2018, 03:25 AM)awkwardcarapace Wrote: »And Q is also un-aligned with town?
You're missing the point.
Mafia are informed of their scumbuddies at the start of the game and nothing more. Third Party or Town, as far as Mafia knew, they were aware that Legendary Q was "not-mafia" and that's the important part, because Mafia would be happy with a lynch that wasn't targeted at someone they knew wasn't on their team.
So as far as bandwagons and information goes, the flip was effectively the same as townie lynch. (And vice-versa, for whatever reason. Again: "Un-aligned with Mafia" is the important part.)
I do agree that I'm slightly glad that the Third-Party got out of the way for the reasons you listed, but that's not what I'm arguing against you for.
(08-28-2018, 03:44 AM)Not The Author Wrote: »@BlazerC, on D1 you suggested Pharms and Sai might be aligned (#202 - #204). I know we don't have anything yet from today to go off of, and, honestly? Sai didn't give us a lot to work with on D1. However, now that Pharms' flipped Scum: do you stand by that assertion? Is Sai plausibly Scum?
Already talked about this in post #294:
(08-27-2018, 05:04 AM)BlazerC Wrote: »But also Pharm was scum! Which at first, reminds me of something I pointed out earlier...
{quote snip}
Pharm coming to Sai's defence using flavour text as their argument was weak as I said, which somewhat paints the action in a strange light. Was Pharm defending a fellow scum, or where they defending (as Sai pointed out) someone who they knew was a townie to make themselves look as good possible? Given how Sai acted yesterday, I'm inclined to believe they were just trying to defend a townie and were pressuring themselves to say stuff. But still, something to consider.
I'm not sure but they feel townie, in other words. Based on Pharm's lurky attitude, my immediate read is that they pressured themselves to say something and came to Sai's defense because it's easy for scum to defend a townie because they know who the non-mafia players are.
It plays into my hunch of Numbers, who Pharm was arguing against when they were defending Sai. I think Numbers is still just... in the "new player who isn't reading into the right posts" camp. Which in turn inclines me to lean towards a town Sai.
However, this could drastically change in the future. So: I would really like to know Sai's current opinion on the recent developments, if they're here.
And:
(08-28-2018, 03:44 AM)Not The Author Wrote: »Anyone else got questions for me? I tend to work better with a framework to build from.
Slam me with your opinion on Seedy, NTA. I'm curious.
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - awkwardcarapace - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 04:58 AM)Acionyx Wrote: »(08-28-2018, 03:25 AM)awkwardcarapace Wrote: »(08-28-2018, 02:19 AM)BlazerC Wrote: »Why is voting for Q a good thing? They were un-aligned with the mafia.
And for that point, why is being against me (Blazer) a good thing for Solaris when you just said that I am kinda townish?
And Q is also un-aligned with town? I always tend to treat third-parties as wild cards that can hit both scum and town, and because town greatly outnumbers scum in mafia games it's way more likely that they'll do more harm than good.
I'm actually pretty glad that we got a third-party out this early in the game? We didn't get much information from the lynch (because third-party lynches tend to be more "neutral" if anything), which could be pretty disastrous in late game.
No the lynch is equivalent to a town one because Q never claimed third party so scum didn't have any knowledge that he wasn't town to act differently upon.
You should answer the second half of his question btw
Fair, I guess what I meant is like, the fact that Q is out of the game is Good, but yeah it ends up being essentially the same as a town lynch, which is Bad. (I hope that makes sense.)
Also, why Being Against Blazer Scores Points: like with the Numbers scumread, I generally like people who have the same scum reads as me. It’s not a hard rule (obviously), but it makes me view them more favorably. It seems shallow, I know, but I think it’s a fine way to gauge how people are thinking and if I’m on the right track or not. Mind you, I don’t base my opinions off of SOLELY that. I’m still wary of Solaris for reasons previous. And Schazer’s favorability is slightly slipping in my view too, despite her also thinking Blazer’s scum.
Now as for why I had put Blazer as a townie with an asterisk... it’s honestly my bad for classifying it like that, it wasn’t very accurate to how I was feeling and I much much prefer my more recent comparison:
(08-28-2018, 03:25 AM)awkwardcarapace Wrote: »I'd like to clarify that status by instead explaining that I've got you as a "superposition between the scum and town camps, constantly flickering between the two". I'll say, though, that I'm leaning more towards scum now.
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Not The Author - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 05:07 AM)Acionyx Wrote: »(08-28-2018, 03:44 AM)Not The Author Wrote: »I know we don't have anything yet from today to go off of, and, honestly? Sai didn't give us a lot to work with on D1.Why do you say this?
Well, it's-- hm. On review there's more content than I thought, so why... Oh! I think I get it, but unfortunately, it is Gremlin Brain.
(08-28-2018, 03:44 AM)Not The Author Wrote: »No read as yet, though my gremlin brain tends to turn "no read, but is keeping things moving" into "plausible townie," so. grains of salt, and all that.Sai is a counterpart to "people what keep things moving are plausible townies." That is, on D1, Sai did not act in a way that I personally interpreted as "keeping things moving," and had a relatively mild, uh. vernacular? Word Use Style Thing. so even though they provided a lot of responses and analysis, none of them stuck with me, and nothing about what they did struck me as "applying pressure." Which I guess would turn into a potential scum-read? In the sort of, being-active-without-drawing-attention way. Though... the actual content they put out read as townish, which, I. guess is what scum tries to do. hm.
Didn't think this is where I would end up when I started writing this, but. here we are.
Like, the thing that sticks out to me the most is, naturally, their vote on Schazer, which, frankly, Schaz? that was a vote deserved, at least at the time it was supplied. But that's part of the issue, here: Schaz had been acting unhelpful and contrarian throughout most of D1, but never actually gained much of a spotlight, which in hindsight feels... almost too safe a vote? and Sai never unvoted Schaz, even after Schaz started providing actual opinions of relative substance, which also feels sketch? in that, committing to an action draws attention and questions; voting for Schaz at the time it was done was relatively safe (#192), but then when Schazer did appear and start expressing opinions, Sai opted to not unvote, which would have prompted questions: why the switch, who to switch to; things that would attract attention and be points of potential discussion.
On top of that, we have this sequence of assertions:
Now that is selective quoting. In fairness to a fuller picture of events, we do also have:
(08-23-2018, 03:10 AM)Sai Wrote: »I think that Schazer was aggressively nonproductive and tried to remain content free long after it was appropriate. I think that asking to be shot was abnormal. I think that it's actually kinda weird that people would post that they'd want to shoot them, but not also vote for them.Which is true! I completely understand where Sai's coming from with this. It just. stopped being true after a point, and I'm not clear why, beyond that point, Sai did not pursue a Q lynch.
I'd actually be okay with lynching Q too, but I think that pressuring a potential lynch on Schazer now would tell us more than just adding another vote on Q would.
What I'm trying to say here is: wow yeah I was way wrong to say there wasn't much to go on. Thanks for the catch, yo
...Y'know, I'm still not clear on how "everyone on a D1 Lynch (or, on this particular D1 Lynch?) would definitely be a townie" tracks, especially after saying something like that out loud. But that feels incidental at this point. Not sure where to take that train of thought, anyway.
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Not The Author - 08-28-2018
oh, and. while I'm here. may as well, y'know.
Drawing conclusions from negative space: It's not a vase, but two-faced.
Vote: Sai
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Not The Author - 08-28-2018
@BlazerC opinions on Seedy are gonna gotta wait for tomorrow midnight-plus, but I'll do my best.
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - seedy - 08-28-2018
opinions
jac, pala, sol: good general vibe and saying things I mostly agree with, also imo solaris suddenly switching off a not-maf lynch and starting a different one would be a WILD thing to do as scum since it’d be totally unnecessary
nta, nola, airey, acio: saying things I mostly agree with (I totally relate to the “wait sai said things” stuff, it really did feel weirdly contentless) but slightly off vibe
cb: leaning town cuz of what pharms said
ac: scum vibes but unsure of own instincts wrt ac
blazer, sai: weird impression of posting a lot but not having that much content, possibly caused by their constant quotewalls, scum lean
schazer, pilot: lurky in very different ways, not feeling what they do pop in and say, scum lean
slorange, justicewatch: vig pls
if I forgot someone then whatever my work break is over bye
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - SleepingOrange - 08-28-2018
Nothing has mechanically happened to me yet this game, but I'm not quite caught up yet on discussion. This is just supposed to let you guys know I'm not dodging the game, just busy like a said I would be. I should have actual shit to say tonight after work.
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Jacquerel - 08-28-2018
Reread part one:
What did Pharmacy say before dying?
Well unfortunately the answer is; very little, didn't even throw a vote on anyone.
There was some weird, unprovoked defence of Sai in terms of flavour which I would
side eye less if Sai had said something about how strange that was, but they didn't.
So I guess I need to have another look at what Sai was doing now.
And the only other thing we might be able to draw information from was that she said that if she was a daycop she'd investigate Coldblooded, Seedy, or Reyweld (who we know now was town).
I don't know that this really tells us much either. You could do some wine stuff and say "If one of these was town, maybe the other two are too" or "If one of these was town, maybe one of the remaining two is not", given that Pharms would have known or suspected, but I don't think that I personally would get anywhere by doing that.
Reread part two:
What about that wagon?
At dayend the lynch on Q was:
Reyweld (town, because died at night, bad move honestly)
Granolaman
TehPilot
BlazerC
Jacquerel (town, because I know what I am)
Solaris
awkwardcarapace
So discounting me and Reyweld, it's pretty reasonable to assume that at least one of Granola, TehPilot, Blazer, Solaris, and aC is scum.
Solaris wasn't much yesterday but I agree with Seedy that unvoting Q to make it a no lynch and then immediately re-voting them again is such an utterly wild move for someone who would not want to bring attention to themselves that I can't understand how that would be a mafia player gambit, Scumlaris could have just left their vote there from earlier in the game and been fine.
That's really not a strong town read but that's a pass from me for now.
Throughout yesterday and continuing today I do not like what aC has been doing.
Maybe it is just new player nerves but as much as he has been actively answering questions and looking active they're still not really saying anything which doesn't feel like it's safe or there to please the crowd rather than further a discussion.
Like I don't know, maybe that isn't fair, but I can't help but like, their town reads essentially include everyone who is asking them questions, and that could be true (being active and asking people questions is a good way to appear to be a town player) but that also could be "you are the players who are engaging me, I must appease you".
Something that really throws me off is the last minute wagon jump after the point where it wasn't necessary any more, after spending all day talking about how they don't like a day one lynch, and then also doing that today after the fact.
This could be a sign that aC and Solaris are not coaligned and aC did not trust Solaris to vote jump a third time and stop the wagon, but I don't know.
I am willing to believe that town aC is sincere in not wanting to lynch people day one, except that this is not consistent with their behaviour where they throw a vote on the lynch at the end of day one after it is no longer necessary to do so.
It's harder to decide whether that's a mafia member worried that non-mafia Solaris is going to mess up the lynch or a nervous town member trying to... do, something? It would have been an even bigger alarm bell if Q ended up being scum too really.
Gonna be real, think I need a better explanation as to what that was about.
But also if aC flips scum, like Solaris a lot more.
I think I'm gonna go back to the other people on there later instead of right now (it seems like especially TehPilot and BlazerC I need to pay more attention to than I have been) to stop this from being a big post and also because I want to do something else right now, but also right now I'm willing to lynch aC today.
Vote: awkwardCarapace
Frankly I should have just done that in my first post today.
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Mirdini - 08-28-2018
News From the Front Votals
awkwardcarapace - 3 (BlazerC, Granolaman, Jacquerel)
BlazerC - 2 (Acionyx, Numbers)
Schazer - 1 (seedy)
Solaris - 1 (TehPilot)
TehPilot - 1 (Solaris)
Sai - 1 (Not The Author)
Abstaining - 9 (Coldblooded, Schazer, Palamedes, awkwardcarapace, Airey, Sai, Robust Laser, [JWatch's Replacement], SleepingOrange)
With 18 players alive it takes 10 votes to hard lynch, and 6 votes to soft lynch. Day ends in 86 hours, at 10am CET on Saturday, September 1st.
Day End Countdown
Mod Advisories
1. As there's been some confusion on the topic and I believe I have mentioned it before on Discord during the setup phase, I'm confirming in here that non-town aligned players in this game (as in all Dini Games) are given Fake Flavor Claims that they can use (or not) as they desire. Chief Toxicologist Percival Dawkins was, if the daystart flavor didn't make it clear enough, LegendaryQ's fakeclaim.
2. Justice Watch has requested to replace out of the game due to being too busy IRL to properly play, I am currently checking with Akumu to see if he has time to replace in.
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Airey - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 03:03 AM)TehPilot Wrote: »Airey: do you have any thoughts on Solaris beyond what you hinted at in #337?
(08-28-2018, 04:36 AM)Solaris Wrote: »Vote: tehPilot
So besides this low key omgus vote on you Sol is my biggest suspect for being the third party right now due to the way they have been acting, eg
(08-28-2018, 04:36 AM)Solaris Wrote: »in other news
i kind of understand where seedy's coming from and am willing to support a schazer lynch but if schazer flips scum then seedy like, definitely is turbobussing is my imo as much as i do legit read seedy as town right now!
Is it just me or are they saying they will support seedy in a bit to lynch schazer, and if schazer is scum then it confirms both seedy and themselves as town.
i more or less think schazer is a bomb i do not want to touch right now but if i had a gun or day cop Sol is my target 100%.
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Airey - 08-28-2018
edit Vote Sol
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Solaris - 08-28-2018
thats literally the opposite of what i said
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Schazer - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 12:57 AM)Acionyx Wrote: »(08-28-2018, 12:42 AM)Schazer Wrote: »Reading through Pharms' interactions yesterday: Numbers a bit worse, Granola iffy (but Granola Slorange and Pharms are not a scum team together), Coldblooded looking good
Explainy?
Based on somewhat limited pool of posts Pharms made yesterday but:
(08-23-2018, 03:30 PM)Pharmacy Wrote: »If I had to public cop anyone, it would be Coldblooded, cuz she's helpful and I want to make sure we have some confirmation to rely on her. Seedy and Reyweld are good choices too. My brain says Seedy because, as Sai said, their posts feel neutral so far. My heart says Reyweld because he killed me in nostalgfia...the meta aftertaste...
ANYWAY, I'll probably be unlikely to vote before the day ends bc B U S Y.
This interaction doesn't seem like something coaligned CB+pharms would do. Having said that I'm re-reading right now and trying to see if there's any untoward reason why Pharms would've picked CB for the publicopping.
Posts 202-204 (Blazer and Sai) feel weird in retrospect though and I'm actually ok to Vote: Sai
Those posts're in response to Pharms' earlier post directed at Numbers which feels a lot more on the wrong side of the line between "mutually unknown alignment banter" and "coaligned scum trying to fake the aforementioned banter"
It's like, a mere snippet, but it makes me feel like a Sai+Pharms+Numbers scum team isn't implausible?
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The confidence about Granola+Slorange+Pharms not being coaligned is primarily the interaction around the Cesar malarkey. that just didn't strike me as scum doing a Bit together?
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - seedy - 08-28-2018
they’re saying if schaz is scum then me voting schazer looks like bussing more than the actions of a townie
which is sorta silly to me bc it means that if schaz is town it’s better??
but I kinda get it bc people don’t usually try to lynch “established players” early on unless they’re trying something funny
but I’m doing it because I think ignoring established player status and lynching schazer for lurky shiftiness is what schazer would want
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Coldblooded - 08-28-2018
Okay, so after rereading Blazer's posts, he actually seems kinda alright? Seeing that he had also been expecting Justice Watch to die towards the end of D1 does actually cast his early D2 comments in a much less weird light, and the excuse of him wanting to get JW to just start talking also rings true. (Still don't really get the logic that killing lurkers as scum N1 is ideal play but it's consistent at least so whatever.)
AC on the other hand is the other hand is pretty much the exact opposite of consistent. I can sort of excuse some of his shifting reads as normal townie indecisiveness, but I don't like how little he seems to care to care about actually voting for or pressuring hardly any of his supposed scum reads, or the way he changed his mind about D1 lynches just to make sure the LQ lynch went through.
Seedy and Jac also bring up decent points about how Sol's last minute wagon jumping at the end of D1 makes little sense as scum, and also it's not like I pulled the exact same bullshit before as town too.
Comparing the votes from the end of day one to right now is pretty interesting also: Solaris and TehPilot look super unaligned, and Blazer/Granola/Jacquerel all look unaligned with AC.
Vote AwkwardCarapace
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Coldblooded - 08-28-2018
Question for TehPilot: What's your opinion of AwkwardCarapace, and of the current wagon on him?
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Coldblooded - 08-28-2018
Numbers: Same question as the one for Pilot above, and also do you still have a townread on Pilot?
RE: The Wander Island Incident - Day Two: Cold Dawn [18/21] - Schazer - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 09:22 PM)seedy Wrote: »I’m doing it because I think ignoring established player status and lynching schazer for lurky shiftiness is what schazer would want
(If it weren't for the fact I'm town this game) It's true
