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RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - bo - 07-18-2018
(07-18-2018, 09:08 PM)Thalia V1 Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 08:07 PM)Vidirian Wrote: »>Clay [Cheater]: Mention a more brutal and "better" plan. Do a Charisma check to convince them to join you with their stolen ship and hostages on your journey to Fortuna. Wouldn't it be so much brutal if they got the hostages to fight to the death in front of the chest that grants the winner whatever they desire most? It would be so much better than fighting on some boring white rock. They wouldn't just fight for their life, but also fight for what they truly desire. Imagine one person fighting for an antidote for their terminally ill daughter while the other is fighting for money that'll save the family business from the mob. How messed up would that be? Brutal, right?
This way we can get a ship, an AI for the ship, and the hostages. We can try to double-cross them later to save the hostages.
yes
yes (the trait check may make more sense with [Illusionist], though)
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - TheDivinePotato - 07-18-2018
(07-18-2018, 06:52 PM)Artem1s Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 04:58 PM)Apo11o Wrote: »> Clay: Charisma check 'em to try and get a better deal than giving up 30kp or one of our crew members.
> Like, you know, would a random slave or a crew member on their way to Fortuna really be the best kind of people for this? Come on, neither of those fellas even have any will to live anymore. Surely they can think of some other victims! (That means we don't have to deal with this!)
seconding this
if it fails let's take glirny's smart collar and give em up
thirding this
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Kenshiago - 07-18-2018
(07-18-2018, 10:24 PM)bo Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 09:08 PM)Thalia V1 Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 08:07 PM)Vidirian Wrote: »>Clay [Cheater]: Mention a more brutal and "better" plan. Do a Charisma check to convince them to join you with their stolen ship and hostages on your journey to Fortuna. Wouldn't it be so much brutal if they got the hostages to fight to the death in front of the chest that grants the winner whatever they desire most? It would be so much better than fighting on some boring white rock. They wouldn't just fight for their life, but also fight for what they truly desire. Imagine one person fighting for an antidote for their terminally ill daughter while the other is fighting for money that'll save the family business from the mob. How messed up would that be? Brutal, right?
This way we can get a ship, an AI for the ship, and the hostages. We can try to double-cross them later to save the hostages.
yes
yes (the trait check may make more sense with [Illusionist], though)
Actually yeah that makes sense, Illusionist helping make up a cunning lie and all.
Also with Kratos they can't disrespect the captain's orders if this works.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Spish - 07-18-2018
> Clay Valentine: Endear them to yourself with a grand introduction. Put on a show to distract them.
> Stalling us out in the middle of an unknown sector... isn't that basically the same thing as killing us? Maybe you can cut us some slack, I'm pretty sure there are no cops where we're headed.
> Would you be willing to hand over the navigator if we throw in something extra? Shouldn't be too hard to find someone else.
> Try to get them to lower their guard and power down their weapons/shields before making the transaction. Can't trust them not to just kill you after getting the money, after all. It's not like we're going to use a trick to disappear from radar and run away *hint hint*
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Futurdreamz - 07-19-2018
Should we use an illusion to "summon the army"?
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Numbers - 07-19-2018
(07-18-2018, 11:27 PM)Kenshiago Wrote: »Yeah, do this.(07-18-2018, 10:24 PM)bo Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 09:08 PM)Thalia V1 Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 08:07 PM)Vidirian Wrote: »>Clay [Cheater]: Mention a more brutal and "better" plan. Do a Charisma check to convince them to join you with their stolen ship and hostages on your journey to Fortuna. Wouldn't it be so much brutal if they got the hostages to fight to the death in front of the chest that grants the winner whatever they desire most? It would be so much better than fighting on some boring white rock. They wouldn't just fight for their life, but also fight for what they truly desire. Imagine one person fighting for an antidote for their terminally ill daughter while the other is fighting for money that'll save the family business from the mob. How messed up would that be? Brutal, right?
This way we can get a ship, an AI for the ship, and the hostages. We can try to double-cross them later to save the hostages.
yes
yes (the trait check may make more sense with [Illusionist], though)
Actually yeah that makes sense, Illusionist helping make up a cunning lie and all.
Also with Kratos they can't disrespect the captain's orders if this works.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - KleenFarsight - 07-19-2018
(07-19-2018, 12:31 AM)Numbers Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 11:27 PM)Kenshiago Wrote: »Yeah, do this.(07-18-2018, 10:24 PM)bo Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 09:08 PM)Thalia V1 Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 08:07 PM)Vidirian Wrote: »>Clay [Cheater]: Mention a more brutal and "better" plan. Do a Charisma check to convince them to join you with their stolen ship and hostages on your journey to Fortuna. Wouldn't it be so much brutal if they got the hostages to fight to the death in front of the chest that grants the winner whatever they desire most? It would be so much better than fighting on some boring white rock. They wouldn't just fight for their life, but also fight for what they truly desire. Imagine one person fighting for an antidote for their terminally ill daughter while the other is fighting for money that'll save the family business from the mob. How messed up would that be? Brutal, right?
This way we can get a ship, an AI for the ship, and the hostages. We can try to double-cross them later to save the hostages.
yes
yes (the trait check may make more sense with [Illusionist], though)
Actually yeah that makes sense, Illusionist helping make up a cunning lie and all.
Also with Kratos they can't disrespect the captain's orders if this works.
This sounds like a decent plan that uses our traits to our advantage. I'm in favor of this.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Will Phoenix - 07-19-2018
(07-19-2018, 12:31 AM)Numbers Wrote: »I sat same, but if the charisma check fails, use the ship's "Trick" to pull a stunt and lose those wasps. At least we could postpone the battle to a much strategically better place.(07-18-2018, 11:27 PM)Kenshiago Wrote: »Yeah, do this.(07-18-2018, 10:24 PM)bo Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 09:08 PM)Thalia V1 Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 08:07 PM)Vidirian Wrote: »>Clay [Cheater]: Mention a more brutal and "better" plan. Do a Charisma check to convince them to join you with their stolen ship and hostages on your journey to Fortuna. Wouldn't it be so much brutal if they got the hostages to fight to the death in front of the chest that grants the winner whatever they desire most? It would be so much better than fighting on some boring white rock. They wouldn't just fight for their life, but also fight for what they truly desire. Imagine one person fighting for an antidote for their terminally ill daughter while the other is fighting for money that'll save the family business from the mob. How messed up would that be? Brutal, right?
This way we can get a ship, an AI for the ship, and the hostages. We can try to double-cross them later to save the hostages.
yes
yes (the trait check may make more sense with [Illusionist], though)
Actually yeah that makes sense, Illusionist helping make up a cunning lie and all.
Also with Kratos they can't disrespect the captain's orders if this works.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Ten11 - 07-19-2018
(07-19-2018, 01:30 AM)Will Phoenix Wrote: »-snip-This
I sat same, but if the charisma check fails, use the ship's "Trick" to pull a stunt and lose those wasps. At least we could postpone the battle to a much strategically better place.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Apo11o - 07-19-2018
(07-18-2018, 08:07 PM)Vidirian Wrote: »>Clay [Cheater]: Mention a more brutal and "better" plan. Do a Charisma check to convince them to join you with their stolen ship and hostages on your journey to Fortuna. Wouldn't it be so much brutal if they got the hostages to fight to the death in front of the chest that grants the winner whatever they desire most? It would be so much better than fighting on some boring white rock. They wouldn't just fight for their life, but also fight for what they truly desire. Imagine one person fighting for an antidote for their terminally ill daughter while the other is fighting for money that'll save the family business from the mob. How messed up would that be? Brutal, right?
This way we can get a ship, an AI for the ship, and the hostages. We can try to double-cross them later to save the hostages.
So we end up with having two [Wanted] characters on our crew, meaning now we have to actually watch out for the police, plus we double-cross them later and risk their [Unforgiving] trait? I say nah, we shouldn't be near them more than strictly necessary tbh.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Kenshiago - 07-19-2018
(07-19-2018, 04:12 AM)Apo11o Wrote: »(07-18-2018, 08:07 PM)Vidirian Wrote: »>Clay [Cheater]: Mention a more brutal and "better" plan. Do a Charisma check to convince them to join you with their stolen ship and hostages on your journey to Fortuna. Wouldn't it be so much brutal if they got the hostages to fight to the death in front of the chest that grants the winner whatever they desire most? It would be so much better than fighting on some boring white rock. They wouldn't just fight for their life, but also fight for what they truly desire. Imagine one person fighting for an antidote for their terminally ill daughter while the other is fighting for money that'll save the family business from the mob. How messed up would that be? Brutal, right?
This way we can get a ship, an AI for the ship, and the hostages. We can try to double-cross them later to save the hostages.
So we end up with having two [Wanted] characters on our crew, meaning now we have to actually watch out for the police, plus we double-cross them later and risk their [Unforgiving] trait? I say nah, we shouldn't be near them more than strictly necessary tbh.
Honestly with Kratos we don't have to double cross them, but you have a point about the [Wanted] trait. Though I wonder if we could convince the cops with Clay's charisma that they are under our watch, since they would be unable to disrespect his orders.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Yaveker - 07-19-2018
> Inquire about what the ritual is supposed to do, if its something cool maybe we can help get a bunch of people and do it multiple times if it works the first time.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - suffershack - 07-19-2018
...Can you take Xorithe?
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Orpheus the Bard - 07-20-2018
(07-19-2018, 05:02 PM)suffershack Wrote: »...Can you take Xorithe?
Seconding. Give them the lootbox.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Hichico - 07-20-2018
(07-18-2018, 08:07 PM)Vidirian Wrote: »>Clay [Cheater]: Mention a more brutal and "better" plan. Do a Charisma check to convince them to join you with their stolen ship and hostages on your journey to Fortuna. Wouldn't it be so much brutal if they got the hostages to fight to the death in front of the chest that grants the winner whatever they desire most? It would be so much better than fighting on some boring white rock. They wouldn't just fight for their life, but also fight for what they truly desire. Imagine one person fighting for an antidote for their terminally ill daughter while the other is fighting for money that'll save the family business from the mob. How messed up would that be? Brutal, right?
This way we can get a ship, an AI for the ship, and the hostages. We can try to double-cross them later to save the hostages.
seconding this plan of action.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Fellow - 07-20-2018
(07-19-2018, 05:02 PM)suffershack Wrote: »...Can you take Xorithe?
Xorithe is our doctor and psychologist. That's not a very good thing to give up.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Futurdreamz - 07-21-2018
(07-20-2018, 02:36 PM)Fellow Wrote: »(07-19-2018, 05:02 PM)suffershack Wrote: »...Can you take Xorithe?
Xorithe is our doctor and psychologist. That's not a very good thing to give up.
Eh, we've managed before.
RE: [Fortuna]: Not the bees 7/18 - Gimeurcookie - 07-21-2018
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RE: [Fortuna]: 110% 7/20 - Apo11o - 07-21-2018
> Take the deal! We can live without 40,000p.
> But let's be cautious too; we should be prepared just in case they do double cross us. Even if Clay's [Lie Detector] didn't go off, it's better to be safe than sorry.
RE: [Fortuna]: 110% 7/20 - Artem1s - 07-21-2018
hand over the money i feel like we won't be doing much better here
RE: [Fortuna]: 110% 7/20 - Babybowser101 - 07-21-2018
Trust them and take the deal if [Lie Detector] doesn't flare up. If it does, use the ship's trick to get outta there.
RE: [Fortuna]: 110% 7/20 - LoverIan - 07-21-2018
>Vivian thinks that is an entirely agreeable exchange.
RE: [Fortuna]: 110% 7/20 - Hichico - 07-21-2018
>Why not take the deal....and double cross them? Could be worth more in the long run if we can pull it off.
RE: [Fortuna]: 110% 7/20 - Futurdreamz - 07-21-2018
>take the deal, but try not to let on that you can afford it. Act like you were forced to get the crew to chip in or something.
RE: [Fortuna]: 110% 7/20 - CourtesyWizard(CW) - 07-21-2018
(07-21-2018, 03:48 AM)Futurdreamz Wrote: »>take the deal, but try not to let on that you can afford it. Act like you were forced to get the crew to chip in or something.
mmmmmmm yes
(07-21-2018, 03:03 AM)Apo11o Wrote: »> Take the deal! We can live without 40,000p.
> But let's be cautious too; we should be prepared just in case they do double cross us. Even if Clay's [Lie Detector] didn't go off, it's better to be safe than sorry.
yeaaah sounds like a good plan! side note here, i say we definitely don't lock up the crew members. I was mulling it over, but if they did end up double crossing us, we might have some crew members there to help the captain if a situation arises.
(07-21-2018, 03:22 AM)Hichico Wrote: »>Why not take the deal....and double cross them? Could be worth more in the long run if we can pull it off.
Well, I know the captain is quite the charmer, but i disagree. With Vivian's street smarts and the duo's variety of other traits, we'd be good as dead.
[also here's the link to their entry if anyone hasn't read up on it already and is lazy like me [/url= https://cosmosdex.com/cosmosdex/lore/legendary/vivian&willa]
hereeee [/url]